can i sub another type of rectifier other than the 5Y3 on my silver face champ ??  Its a cathode bias amp.... would i have to reset bias with other than 5Y3 ?? 
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						Champ Rectifier
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Re: Champ Rectifier
If it's a real silverface Champ not a clone the short answer is "No".
There's only 2 amps on the 5 volt filament. The silverface transformer is the weakest link, it runs hot to begin with and the B+ is higher than it should be.
In theory a 5AR4 has a 2 amp filament and should work in a Champ. In practice it cranks the B+ higher and blows fuses, not what you want IMHO.
If you're talking a clone with an aftermarket PT it's a different story.
			
			
									
									
						There's only 2 amps on the 5 volt filament. The silverface transformer is the weakest link, it runs hot to begin with and the B+ is higher than it should be.
In theory a 5AR4 has a 2 amp filament and should work in a Champ. In practice it cranks the B+ higher and blows fuses, not what you want IMHO.
If you're talking a clone with an aftermarket PT it's a different story.
Re: Champ Rectifier
You could also run a 5V4 and get a B+ between that of a 5Y3 and a 5AR4. Also, for whatever reason, indirectly heated cathode rectos, i.e., 5AR4, will make some champ-style amps noisier.
I'd also strongly advise you to drill the hole and put a standby switch on the back panel.
			
			
									
									I'd also strongly advise you to drill the hole and put a standby switch on the back panel.
Rich Gordon
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"The takers get the honey, the givers get the blues." --Robin Trower
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"The takers get the honey, the givers get the blues." --Robin Trower
Re: Champ Rectifier
Creating a Standby switch, where one is not already present, is easy.
1. Locate the B+ wire coming off pin 8 of the rectifier. (Remember, the pins are numbered clockwise when looking down at the wire connectors on the socket.)
2. Unsolder that wire.
3. After drilling the 1/2" hole and mounting a switch (Carling switches are fine), connect one switch terminal to pin 8 of the rectifier.
4. Connect the wire you took off the rectifier to the other terminal of the switch.
That's all there is to it.
			
			
									
									1. Locate the B+ wire coming off pin 8 of the rectifier. (Remember, the pins are numbered clockwise when looking down at the wire connectors on the socket.)
2. Unsolder that wire.
3. After drilling the 1/2" hole and mounting a switch (Carling switches are fine), connect one switch terminal to pin 8 of the rectifier.
4. Connect the wire you took off the rectifier to the other terminal of the switch.
That's all there is to it.
Rich Gordon
www.myspace.com/bigboyamplifiers
"The takers get the honey, the givers get the blues." --Robin Trower
						www.myspace.com/bigboyamplifiers
"The takers get the honey, the givers get the blues." --Robin Trower
great thanks
Nice...... will do 
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						Ange
Re: Champ Rectifier
Drilling a hole will permanently reduce the value of the amp.  A tube rectified amp's PS voltages come up gradually as the rectifier warms up.  I don't see any significant advantage from a standby on one.
Use an NOS 5y3 (not a Sovtek) to avoid some increased PS voltages.
			
			
									
									Use an NOS 5y3 (not a Sovtek) to avoid some increased PS voltages.
If it says "Vintage" on it, -it isn't.