Trainwreck pots
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- Ron Worley
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Trainwreck pots
I know this has been covered in several posts in  general terms, but the question is: if you are building as close as possible to Francesca, what pots are you using?
The ClaroStat / Westalbs and PEC pots are stainless backed, and it's impossible to authentically attach a copper wire grounding buss. Dave West said that KF used cheap pots, and that using this kind of grounding scheme was a bad idea. I don't know if I agree at least on a musical level- the Express doesn't seem to suffer for it.
Also, any insights on what bias trimmer pot sources- the one with the knurled thumb wheel???
Thanks in advance!
Ron
			
			
													The ClaroStat / Westalbs and PEC pots are stainless backed, and it's impossible to authentically attach a copper wire grounding buss. Dave West said that KF used cheap pots, and that using this kind of grounding scheme was a bad idea. I don't know if I agree at least on a musical level- the Express doesn't seem to suffer for it.
Also, any insights on what bias trimmer pot sources- the one with the knurled thumb wheel???
Thanks in advance!
Ron
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45 views and not one comment.... come on.. this is not an absurd question guys...
			
			
									
									
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Don't know an answer so can't comment. I've noticed the forum goes quiet from time to time (usually right after I post something  
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Re: Trainwreck pots
Thanks for at least an answer.... perhaps I am a tad impatient....  I'm just really ready to get this thing under way!
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Re: Trainwreck pots
Ok cold shower timeRon Worley wrote:Thanks for at least an answer.... perhaps I am a tad impatient.... I'm just really ready to get this thing under way!
RLW
Re: Trainwreck pots
Ron, I use PEC's for my builds. KF used them later and suggested their use for the Komets. Clarostat has a solder lug that reaches around the pot and I insert a copper buss rod and soder it to the lugs. You can do a search of any of the TW clones I've built in the last here on this forum for a close up.
I also Have the original (only a few) CTS "pick-a-shaft" pots the KF used on the originals.
			
			
									
									
						I also Have the original (only a few) CTS "pick-a-shaft" pots the KF used on the originals.
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Wait till you post a clip and 50 guys look at it without comment. Heheheheheh.Ron Worley wrote:45 views and not one comment.... come on.. this is not an absurd question guys...
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Re: Trainwreck pots
I wanted to match the original layout as much as possible including the soldered on buss bar.  I got some CGE pots from Metro amps, and they actually hand picked them for me to more closely match the values I measured on my originals.  I couldn't get a reading on the volume pot in the circuit so I just went with the standard known value there.  The tapers of the CGEs are a little different, and the knobs have to be in slightly different positions to most closely replicate the sounds of my original.  The CGEs are a little budget looking, but they feel pretty good and no problems so far.  I'm happy I used them.
Allyn is right about Ken also using the PECs. I think my Liverpool had one in it.
I've never had any pot issues with my original Wrecks. Ken picked the taper well, and Wrecks are known for a great sound with every knob on 1/2 and the bright in full position. Simple setting but it works!
			
			
									
									
						Allyn is right about Ken also using the PECs. I think my Liverpool had one in it.
I've never had any pot issues with my original Wrecks. Ken picked the taper well, and Wrecks are known for a great sound with every knob on 1/2 and the bright in full position. Simple setting but it works!
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Re: Trainwreck pots
Thanks for the inputs guys.  Allyn, do you have a good source for these lugs (maybe you??)??
I have seen these at Ampwares, but frankly don't want to deal with that supplier anymore.
Anybody else know of a source??
Ron
			
			
									
									
						I have seen these at Ampwares, but frankly don't want to deal with that supplier anymore.
Anybody else know of a source??
Ron