Recording Techniques for getting Great Dumble Tone

[Robbie]

I have heard some great sounding clips on this site and was wondering if anybody would be willing to share their recording techniques? Specifically:

Mic locations
Mic Types
Volume Level
Speaker Types

Thanks,

Robbie

[Bob-I]

The best recordings I've gotten were using an SM-57 about 3" from the center dome of an Eminence Swamp Thang or a Celestion G12H80. Typically I don't record at high volumes, but more like a mid volume, about 10:00 on the master volume.

Here's an example. http://www.patmedia.net/bob-ingram/DClo ... Bob-I2.mp3 . I always record dry and add processing later.

[heisthl]

That clip has the nice Carlton tone thing goin on - is that amp a hybrid-A?

[Bob-I]

That clip has the nice Carlton tone thing goin on - is that amp a hybrid-A?

Good ear, yes it is. Hybrid-A with 6V6's.

[Robbie]

Great Tone!

Can you tell how the amp is set? Also, the A hybrid I believe does not have the skyliner tone stack, is this correct for your amp?

Thanks,

Robbie

[Bob-I]

Great Tone!

Can you tell how the amp is set? Also, the A hybrid I believe does not have the skyliner tone stack, is this correct for your amp?

Thanks,

Robbie

I had the clean gain on about 11:00, tones T=10:00 M=1:00 B=12:00, OD gain at abot 1:00, presence off, master at about 9:00. Yes, Skyliner TS.

[larsmuller]

Don´t forget mastering and compression techniques...

[Heater]

I find a nice ribbon mic such as the CAD Trion 7000 or Beyer M160 works well at keeping things nice and warm and dispensing of any top-end "hash". YMMV.

Chris

[ic-racer]

Headphones!

Depending on the speaker/cab combo just a few centimeters makes a lot of difference. My closed back Mesa Recto 2x10 V30 is particularly sensitive to just the slightest nudge of the mike. Some of my open back cabs are not as sensitive.

In general I experiment with mike placement. The range of tonal variation as I move the mike from left to right across a 2x12 cab is amazing. Then if you move back some there is another spectrum to play with. In my location I only do close miking, but if you have a quiet, sonically active room, then far miking gives an additinoal multitude of variations.

99% of the time I record with the mixer's eq flat, I do all the eq with mike placement, which is impossible to do in 'real time' without headphones.

I also love my Scholtz "tone soak" for recording. It has a pronounced effect on the amps tone. It compresses the signal and rolls off the highs making recording those high gain tones easy (its my tone secret for the Mesa Dual Rectiifer's buzz, though, my apriori suspicion is its not the right tool for Dumble recording).

[Stanz]

Large Diaphragm mics like a Sennheiser 421 can work real well also. Great for capturing the low end power. Don't underestimate how well an SM-57 can work. Don't let the "cheap" factor fool you. Many many recordings of guitar amps have been done with an SM-57. The high end roll off work well for elec gtr.

For clean tones, a decent condenser mic (that can high pressures) can help deliver the clarity, unlike a dynamic (SM-57, 421), which will have some roll off. I have really liked the sound of having the bright and the deep on, when used for clean tones. Probably better suited for a situation where you need the guitar to stand on its own more.

[Luthierwnc]

Bob, I get an error message at that link. sh

[Bob-I]

Bob, I get an error message at that link. sh

Well yea... that post was over a year ago, I deleted the file long ago.