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johngovan
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I made a Dumble Preamp but...

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It's been many months since i started this journey of building a dumble preamp. Many trials and error and having a limited budget since i dont have a big money to buy the amp nor to build the whole amp. So i decided to build a preamp that i can use in any other amp.

So after making the preamp and hooking it in the return jack of my 50watt guitar amp. I am really pleased with the overdrive sound of this preamp. I've enjoyed playing it the whole day. But i hear some problems that i cannot solved and needing some advise from this womderful forum.

So this is the thing.

The clean sound is somehow dull or lifeless unless i put a bright cap on the master volume. As i read in this forum, a 47p or 68p is the advised cap to put in. So works wonder. The clean sound is now have the clean highs which make my clean channel very pleasing yo play. But when i switch in to the overdrive. The highs are too harsh. It doesn't sound good. It sounds like a tearing paper to my ears. But when i remove the bright cap in the master volume. It makes the overdrive sound a lot better.

So i came up to this solution.
I tried to hook diffent cap values from 470pF, 680pF, 1nF, 22nF, 4.7nF and something in between to the 220k od entrance before the trim pot. I hook it as a low pass filter. So it goes like 220k - 1n to ground - 100k trimpot set to 26k. But it doesnt sound as good as the one without the bright cap.

Are there any options or suggestion you have that can help me in this matter? Thank you. :)
Aaron
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Re: I made a Dumble Preamp but...

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Just put the bright cap on a relay so when you switch on overdrive it switches out the bright cap.

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i never got why in a clean/overdrive amp you have to compromise using just 2 tubes,i mean, how much is one more tube and wire a totally independent od channel? in a 3K+ amp?
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Look for the HRM switching, you can have seperate masters. Fe. On the clean master a 68pF and on the OD master no cap or a small(15pF) cap.
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Or a tiny cap to shunt off the OD1 stage and leave the bright where it is.

Does your preamp conform to any specific schematic? If you have 47-68pf bright early maybe a 25-47p shunt at the OD1 stage is enough. It might be better done at the coupler tail though.

100p and a trimmer from the output of the OD1 pot to ground. That is where I would try first. Get the best clean then switch to OD and dial that shunt in. Should be very close to the same.
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