Eric
Heyboer Transformers
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Heyboer Transformers
Where can you get the Heyboer wreck transformer set nowadays? I talked to Doug Holt at Jenkin's sound shop and he told me he doesn't handle the transformers anymore.
Eric
Eric
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JimmyBlood
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Re: Heyboer Transformers
Eric, can't you order direct from Heyboer? I did that with a set of Plexi transformers. The only drawback was the wait time since it was a one-off. If you want to get some people together for a group order with the discount, count me in for a set.
J.
J.
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Hey Jimmy,
Yeah, I talked to someone at Heyboer a while back and they said if I couldn't find any to come on back. Like you suggested, I guess we need to do a group order and see if we can get the qty 10 set discount. Something else that that I don't understand about the OT is, most people say the impedance of the primary is 6k6 however, in a email exchange with heyboer they indicate it is 5k
(see email quote below)
Eric, Hello..yes these are the correct ones. Did you try Jenkins Sound shop/ Doug Holt.
He is the dist for these but i dont know how he is sitting for stock. He has not ordered for a while and i know he was selling. if no luck, come on back. to do one pc of each will be more as we can hardly do one of`s this cheap anymore. thanks, Phil
----- Original Message -----
From: Eric
To: htovvp@novagate.net
Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2004 11:06 PM
Subject: Transformers
Phil,
My name is Eric Carlson and I am looking for a set of transformers for a Trainwreck Express clone that I am collecting parts for.
Do you have the units below and what are the current prices?
HTS-5200 = 11415 TWOT.
rated 35 watt 5K ohm on pri CT
4-8-16 ohm sec
stand up vert mounting cover w/ exit hole out bottom for leads.
1 pc $48.50
10 pcs $43.80
25pcs $41.20
HTS-5199 11410 TWPT
120pri
sec 300-260-0-260-300 @.300mA
6.3v CT good to 6A
5v CT good to 4A
1pc 57.00
10 pcs 51.85
25pcs 48.90
If not these, what would you recommend?
Thanks, Eric
Yeah, I talked to someone at Heyboer a while back and they said if I couldn't find any to come on back. Like you suggested, I guess we need to do a group order and see if we can get the qty 10 set discount. Something else that that I don't understand about the OT is, most people say the impedance of the primary is 6k6 however, in a email exchange with heyboer they indicate it is 5k
(see email quote below)Eric, Hello..yes these are the correct ones. Did you try Jenkins Sound shop/ Doug Holt.
He is the dist for these but i dont know how he is sitting for stock. He has not ordered for a while and i know he was selling. if no luck, come on back. to do one pc of each will be more as we can hardly do one of`s this cheap anymore. thanks, Phil
----- Original Message -----
From: Eric
To: htovvp@novagate.net
Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2004 11:06 PM
Subject: Transformers
Phil,
My name is Eric Carlson and I am looking for a set of transformers for a Trainwreck Express clone that I am collecting parts for.
Do you have the units below and what are the current prices?
HTS-5200 = 11415 TWOT.
rated 35 watt 5K ohm on pri CT
4-8-16 ohm sec
stand up vert mounting cover w/ exit hole out bottom for leads.
1 pc $48.50
10 pcs $43.80
25pcs $41.20
HTS-5199 11410 TWPT
120pri
sec 300-260-0-260-300 @.300mA
6.3v CT good to 6A
5v CT good to 4A
1pc 57.00
10 pcs 51.85
25pcs 48.90
If not these, what would you recommend?
Thanks, Eric
Heyboer transformers
Hi Eric,
I am pretty sure you can order directly from Heyboer,That's how I got mine.you can use either primary's,I've tried both (6.6k-5.2k)I prefer the way the amp distorts with the 5.2k,someone else may like the 6.6k it's up to you.why not try both,make sure to tweek the 3rd stage resistor/cap with each and find the version you like the best.For my express clone it's a 68k/.001ceramic and .001poly in paralle in the 3rd stage w/5.2k tranny the liverpool is a 56k/.00047 poly 3rd stage w/6.6k tranny.
I am pretty sure you can order directly from Heyboer,That's how I got mine.you can use either primary's,I've tried both (6.6k-5.2k)I prefer the way the amp distorts with the 5.2k,someone else may like the 6.6k it's up to you.why not try both,make sure to tweek the 3rd stage resistor/cap with each and find the version you like the best.For my express clone it's a 68k/.001ceramic and .001poly in paralle in the 3rd stage w/5.2k tranny the liverpool is a 56k/.00047 poly 3rd stage w/6.6k tranny.
Re: Heyboer Transformers
Chris,
Which tranny did you get? DO you have a model number?
I recall getting trannies from Heyboer a long time ago, but there was just a 5K primary. No 6.6K. In fact, I'm not sure of it as my 'wreck is sort if disheveled at the moment and I just peeked. Only 1 set of primaries.
Everone,
If folks here are interested in tranny sets, I would be willing to order from Heyboer and sell for a small premium to cover shipping and paypal fees. That is assuming they'll let me order lots of 10 at a discount when Jenkins is supposed to be the distributor. I wrote a couple of emails a while back to Jenkins asking for tranny sets and got no response either, but Doug's a good guy and I'd not want to step on his toes.
So, if people are interested, post here or shoot me a message to -- chris at toneslut dot com -- as I don't want to drop a grand and be sitting on 9 sets of transformers.
Which tranny did you get? DO you have a model number?
I recall getting trannies from Heyboer a long time ago, but there was just a 5K primary. No 6.6K. In fact, I'm not sure of it as my 'wreck is sort if disheveled at the moment and I just peeked. Only 1 set of primaries.
Everone,
If folks here are interested in tranny sets, I would be willing to order from Heyboer and sell for a small premium to cover shipping and paypal fees. That is assuming they'll let me order lots of 10 at a discount when Jenkins is supposed to be the distributor. I wrote a couple of emails a while back to Jenkins asking for tranny sets and got no response either, but Doug's a good guy and I'd not want to step on his toes.
So, if people are interested, post here or shoot me a message to -- chris at toneslut dot com -- as I don't want to drop a grand and be sitting on 9 sets of transformers.
Re: Heyboer Transformers
Put me down for a set. Do these handle 6V6, EL34, both?
Re: Heyboer Transformers
Aye! I'll take a set.
-neil
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JimmyBlood
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Re: Heyboer Transformers
Sorry to repeat, but I'll take a set.
J.
J.
Re: Heyboer Transformers
OK, I'll look into it. Hopefully we can keep getting trannies for the $100/set price range this way.
As for what they will handle, the set I got from Heyboer (exactly the set we discussed) will handle an awful lot. The power tranny has two HV taps, so you can switch from low-mid 300s to around 400V. With 6V6 I find a little more harmonic content at lower voltage but at 400V with a couple of gain tweaks I get a really cool deluxe reverb on steroids vibe.
EL34s with 5K primary at just under 400V -- well, mine has a sound that lends itself very well to tones running from ZZ to early Van Halen. It does Just Got Paid exactly the way I hear it in my head.
I am still wondering about the 6K6 taps someone was talking about. Should I be asking Heyboer about these, and should I consider stocking a dual primary tranny? Heyboer's done this for me for personal trannies, but it usually comes at a few dollars upcharge. I imagine these taps are for the liverpool output, right? Anybody have any info here?
As for what they will handle, the set I got from Heyboer (exactly the set we discussed) will handle an awful lot. The power tranny has two HV taps, so you can switch from low-mid 300s to around 400V. With 6V6 I find a little more harmonic content at lower voltage but at 400V with a couple of gain tweaks I get a really cool deluxe reverb on steroids vibe.
EL34s with 5K primary at just under 400V -- well, mine has a sound that lends itself very well to tones running from ZZ to early Van Halen. It does Just Got Paid exactly the way I hear it in my head.
I am still wondering about the 6K6 taps someone was talking about. Should I be asking Heyboer about these, and should I consider stocking a dual primary tranny? Heyboer's done this for me for personal trannies, but it usually comes at a few dollars upcharge. I imagine these taps are for the liverpool output, right? Anybody have any info here?
Heyboer tranny's
Hi Moose,
I have gotten 6" trainwreck type" transformers from them,2 powers 4outputs.The powers are the dual secondarys 5199 part#.I got 2) 5200 output's with m6 lam material 4/8/16 taps.I also got 2)6600 part # wound with m27 lams 4/8/16 taps........I'm tying to upload some pics of the different trannies to our site but haveing trouble at the moment doing it!!!!!! The part #'s are simpley what the output trannies primary impedences are.
Hopr this makes sence to you.
Chris
I have gotten 6" trainwreck type" transformers from them,2 powers 4outputs.The powers are the dual secondarys 5199 part#.I got 2) 5200 output's with m6 lam material 4/8/16 taps.I also got 2)6600 part # wound with m27 lams 4/8/16 taps........I'm tying to upload some pics of the different trannies to our site but haveing trouble at the moment doing it!!!!!! The part #'s are simpley what the output trannies primary impedences are.
Hopr this makes sence to you.
Chris
Re: Heyboer Transformers
Hi Moose, check the( test pics thread)
Chris
Chris
Re: Heyboer Transformers
Moose,
I may have been one of the last orders to go through Doug. This was a while back now. He mentioned settling in on a 6.6k pri-Z for the trainwreck OT. His cloning project seemed to end there when I was discussing this with him. I don't know how he got there but it sounded like it came from a real one. Then again, maybe they are both 5k and 6.6k depending on the girl. The model transformers I ended with have the following labels on them.
PT
HTS-5199
9960415
and..
OT
11415 TW-OT-J
9960415
HTH,
Ross
I may have been one of the last orders to go through Doug. This was a while back now. He mentioned settling in on a 6.6k pri-Z for the trainwreck OT. His cloning project seemed to end there when I was discussing this with him. I don't know how he got there but it sounded like it came from a real one. Then again, maybe they are both 5k and 6.6k depending on the girl. The model transformers I ended with have the following labels on them.
PT
HTS-5199
9960415
and..
OT
11415 TW-OT-J
9960415
HTH,
Ross
Re: Heyboer Transformers
OK, this adds a bit of a wrinkle into the whole thing. I was of the understanding that 5200 was the standard, but I don't doubt at all that 6600 is also around as Ken used more than one tranny and was known to tune each amp per customer spec.
If everyone had a vote, what would they choose?
1. 5200
2. 6600
3. Dual primary (obviously not exactly a clone, but if heyboer could add the tap for a few dollars)
I'm hoping to get this rolling and not have to be out $5K to stock up on several different varieties.
Also, how long ago was the last Doug Holt tranny sold? I REALLY don't want to step on his feet.
If everyone had a vote, what would they choose?
1. 5200
2. 6600
3. Dual primary (obviously not exactly a clone, but if heyboer could add the tap for a few dollars)
I'm hoping to get this rolling and not have to be out $5K to stock up on several different varieties.
Also, how long ago was the last Doug Holt tranny sold? I REALLY don't want to step on his feet.