Hammond Organ Amp to Guitar Amp Conversion Project

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Re: Hammond Organ Amp to Guitar Amp Conversion Project

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Another question I have is which pin on the 5U4GB rectifier is the B+?

The Hammond schematic shows it as pin 2.

Other schematics I have seen that use the 5U4GB, such as the Boogie Dual Rectifier have the B+ coming off of pin 8.

I have mine coming from pin 2.

My tube data program says pin 2 is F+.

Is that because it is a directly heated cathode, so it doesn't matter?
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Re: Hammond Organ Amp to Guitar Amp Conversion Project

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I think you mistyped. What the F is F+? :lol: And I think you are right. I've seen that before. The positive voltage is taken off at the cathode/filament; either end.
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Re: Hammond Organ Amp to Guitar Amp Conversion Project

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Heheheh, yeah that's the way the Duncan tube data sheet program labeled the pins.

Got any hints on my previous post about the oscillations?
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Structo wrote:Heheheh, yeah that's the way the Duncan tube data sheet program labeled the pins.

Got any hints on my previous post about the oscillations?
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Re: Hammond Organ Amp to Guitar Amp Conversion Project

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So here is what I did with this Hammond.

I shortened the chassis to 14 inches long.

I drew up a layout to scale and taped it to a Garolite 10 board.
Center punched where the eyelets went.
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Installed the 1/8" eyelets.
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Installed the components.
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Installed the new ceramic tube sockets.
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Installed the choke and output transformer.
Not the best layout but it's a bit cramped.
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And here is how it looks at this point.
I added the negative feedback and presence control.
The switch switches between a 5uf and 10uf bypass cap on V1b.
I may change this to either a larger cap or no cap for a non bypassed cathode.
[IMG:800:600]http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b392/ ... G_0034.jpg[/img]
[IMG:800:600]http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b392/ ... G_0022.jpg[/img]

I had a bad oscillation problem that I later traced to having the plate resistors backwards on the PI. They were drawn wrong on the schematic I had. So I switched the two resistors and also had to switch the plate wires.
Sounds pretty good, still a bit too gainy.

I'm having a bit of a problem with the range on the volume control.
There is very little range for clean before it gets loud and distorted.
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Structo wrote:So here is what I did with this Hammond.

I'm having a bit of a problem with the range on the volume control.
There is very little range for clean before it gets loud and distorted.
So try this:
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Re: Hammond Organ Amp to Guitar Amp Conversion Project

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Yeah, I tried that. Took it all the way down to 10k eventually.

Really didn't notice any difference between 470K, 220K, 100K or 10K.

What's weird, is that I will spend hours researching this stuff, doing the math, looking at different examples, etc.

Then I plug in the components that should work and they sound like ass.

I still like it best with the 832 in V1.
With a ax7 in V1 it's way to gainy. I've tried different ax7's and different plate and cathode resistor combos, I just don't get what is making this thing so hard to tame.
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Re: Hammond Organ Amp to Guitar Amp Conversion Project

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I just a AO-14-1e for $20 :) only one preamp tune In it tho.
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