Zener to trim 30v please
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Zener to trim 30v please
Hi
I have just fired up my 50w build and all is well apart from the B+. I have the MC 40-18029, line voltage 244v AC, 374-0-374 on the red secondary, so about 20v too high. B+ is 495v loaded. 493 on the plates of V4-5. Bias 30.5 mV.
I am adjusting the dropping string to get the B+3-5 down a little ( V1 pin 1 was 217v now 184v ) but I think I need to get a zener on the CT.
I have had a good look through Mouser but I am having trouble finding a suitable zener with the right power dissipation and reverse cathode.
I have a Mouser order going in soon so any help would be appreciated if you have used the zener method before.
Thanks
I have just fired up my 50w build and all is well apart from the B+. I have the MC 40-18029, line voltage 244v AC, 374-0-374 on the red secondary, so about 20v too high. B+ is 495v loaded. 493 on the plates of V4-5. Bias 30.5 mV.
I am adjusting the dropping string to get the B+3-5 down a little ( V1 pin 1 was 217v now 184v ) but I think I need to get a zener on the CT.
I have had a good look through Mouser but I am having trouble finding a suitable zener with the right power dissipation and reverse cathode.
I have a Mouser order going in soon so any help would be appreciated if you have used the zener method before.
Thanks
Last edited by rogb on Tue Jan 29, 2013 12:34 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Re: Zener to trim 30v please
On a recent 100W build I used a couple of 1N5333 5W 3.3V Zener diodes in series on the CT to drop the voltage. I mounted them on a small PCB.
They do not get warm at all.
Regards,
Markus
They do not get warm at all.
Regards,
Markus
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Re: Zener to trim 30v please
Thanks Markus, how about I order some of these:
http://uk.mouser.com/Search/ProductDeta ... 1N5347BRLG
10v 5W zeners and mount them say 3 in series to a little board then heatsink it to the chassis?
http://uk.mouser.com/Search/ProductDeta ... 1N5347BRLG
10v 5W zeners and mount them say 3 in series to a little board then heatsink it to the chassis?
Re: Zener to trim 30v please
I'm used to old style (DO-3) through hole 50w 30v reverse zener diode by NTE. Now days they have different style available.
http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/NTE ... tosHxdc%3d
Which you can find at Newark and other places. http://www.newark.com/jsp/displayProduc ... 90220|plid|
http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/NTE ... tosHxdc%3d
Which you can find at Newark and other places. http://www.newark.com/jsp/displayProduc ... 90220|plid|
Re: Zener to trim 30v please
Mark, I was just emailing Mouser with that part number!
not available in my area WTF???????
not available in my area WTF???????
Re: Zener to trim 30v please
I guess that 10V 5W Zeners should be able to dissipate the heat too. I have a tendency for overkill which is why I used 3.3V 5W Zeners.rogb wrote:Thanks Markus, how about I order some of these:
http://uk.mouser.com/Search/ProductDeta ... 1N5347BRLG
10v 5W zeners and mount them say 3 in series to a little board then heatsink it to the chassis?
I'm used to old style (DO-3) through hole 50w 30v reverse zener diode by NTE. Now days they have different style available.
I completely forgot about using a panel mount Zener. The reason why I used the string of Zener diodes was that I wanted the flexibility to adjust the voltage depending on the number of zeners used.
Regards,
Markus
Re: Zener to trim 30v please
I used a 50w stud mount Zener on my little 6V6 Rocket.
The PT is from a organ and it was about 30v high.
Man, that thing gets pretty hot.
Don't skimp on the power rating!
The PT is from a organ and it was about 30v high.
Man, that thing gets pretty hot.
Don't skimp on the power rating!
Tom
Don't let that smoke out!
Don't let that smoke out!
Re: Zener to trim 30v please
I just heard from Leanne at Mouser and they won't ship NTE parts outside the US - no explanation.
I registered with Newark and went to pay the $27 for the part NTE5268AK but it said shipping would be added later with no indication of the cost so I cancelled that one for now.
Guess I will just have a high plate voltage for now, B3-5 on the PPS is good, though.
Sounds great too
I registered with Newark and went to pay the $27 for the part NTE5268AK but it said shipping would be added later with no indication of the cost so I cancelled that one for now.
Guess I will just have a high plate voltage for now, B3-5 on the PPS is good, though.
Sounds great too
Re: Zener to trim 30v please
There's a couple of places (non-Mouser) I have bought high power stud mount zeners from, if you are having problems. I have no idea why they wouldn't ship an NTE part to the UK.
These 2 places will have something you can use.
www.expediters.com
You need to have a part number to find things at Expediters.
http://www.surplussales.com/index.html
You can browse by type here.
These 2 places will have something you can use.
www.expediters.com
You need to have a part number to find things at Expediters.
http://www.surplussales.com/index.html
You can browse by type here.
Re: Zener to trim 30v please
Thanks I have contacted Surplus Sales for a shipping cost for 1x 50w 30v Zener. 1N3324RBrsi wrote:There's a couple of places (non-Mouser) I have bought high power stud mount zeners from, if you are having problems. I have no idea why they wouldn't ship an NTE part to the UK.
These 2 places will have something you can use.
www.expediters.com
You need to have a part number to find things at Expediters.
http://www.surplussales.com/index.html
You can browse by type here.
Thanks again
Re: Zener to trim 30v please
NTE currently doesn't have a UK distributor at the moment looks like, not sure if that has anything to do with it. You might want to try Farnell, I believe this is the cathode case equivalent to NTE5268AK.rogb wrote:I just heard from Leanne at Mouser and they won't ship NTE parts outside the US - no explanation.
http://uk.farnell.com/solid-state/1n332 ... tt=1n3324b
TM
Re: Zener to trim 30v please
Thanks TM, it needs an "R" to denote reverse polarity.ToneMerc wrote:NTE currently doesn't have a UK distributor at the moment looks like, not sure if that has anything to do with it. You might want to try Farnell, I believe this is the cathode case equivalent to NTE5268AK.rogb wrote:I just heard from Leanne at Mouser and they won't ship NTE parts outside the US - no explanation.
http://uk.farnell.com/solid-state/1n332 ... tt=1n3324b
TM
I already looked at that from Farnell but they charge £16 ($25) shipping for one item if it is not UK stocked. plus $24 for the part
Hope to hear back from Surplus sales -$15 plus I hope a reasonable shipping charge.
Re: Zener to trim 30v please
Thanks Mark, I hope to go with the 50w stud zener as soon as I hear back from the surplus guys.
When this gets buttoned up I am starting on the Marshall 50w - gonna ABY the 2 50w amps
When this gets buttoned up I am starting on the Marshall 50w - gonna ABY the 2 50w amps
Re: Zener to trim 30v please
Weird, as it turns out, i have a 1N2824B sitting on my desk.
I think it's a 50W 33V stud mount zener.
If you strike out with Surplus Sales let me know.
I think it's a 50W 33V stud mount zener.
If you strike out with Surplus Sales let me know.