59 Fender Bassman with Dumble La Tostada mod

[John_P_WI]

I don't know, maybe I'm naive, or being from the upper mid-west I just want to give the guy the benefit of the doubt.

The way I see it, he has something very few other people in the music world have, an amp modified by HAD. I am sure he is proud of it and was looking for others to share his enthusiasm with. What kind of pedals or maybe what could be done for an FX loop. Hell, Porsche guys go to Porsche clubs etc, maybe he was looking at this place as some sort of "like minded" guys place, where someone may own another Tostada mod that he could compare and ask questions to. He doesn't want to piss off HAD with public displays of pics as this may limit future tweaks or amps.

What he ended up getting was "hey guys, check out my new girlfriend" and the answer from here almost immediately was "Damn she is ugly and let's see what she looks like without her clothes on". So much for the imagination or foreplay and "held after" feeling.....

Now to be my own cynic - I think this thread is funnier than shit.... I'll try to keep it to an 8th grade level....

To the OP, don't take the thread too seriously, nothing was personal.

[greiswig]

Jeez... you guys really know how to clear a room. I was hoping he'd post some clips at least, and talk about knowing HAD, but no, you gotta run him by calling names.

I think I'll go back to 2nd grade where this behavior is expected.

Gotta agree here. The OP was trying to ask some questions, but didn't want to (out of respect for the guy who built it) show the innards. To say "shame on you for your ethic" seems petty to me.

I know we've all benefited from seeing gut shots of actual Dumble amps, but I don't think it's right to taunt somebody for doing what Johnyswing did. That's his prerogative, and he shouldn't be berated for it. Maybe HAD asked him not to show off the guts. If so, he should be respected for sticking by a promise he made to HAD.

[M Fowler]

Everyone has the right to post or refuse to post gut shots etc.

But to get all pissed off and call us knuckleheads in my upper midwest raising is overboard.

This guy wasn't even hassled if you read each thread.

I would have said hi guys here is a Dumble modded amp with such and such features but I don't want to show gut shots!

We have all kinds of builders on this forum that do not show their amps because they are selling them as a product in their business or a one off for a friend, relative or customer.

No problem with that, I can respect that completely.

[Structo]

I did some work for a Good buddy of mine and he gave me this amp. I really do not know a whole lot about it other then Mr Dumble did do his magic on it. It even has his lable on the inside.

Remember this is what the OP said.
He did not buy the amp directly from HAD.

I am not aware of HAD speaking to or working on amps that have passed from the original owners possession.
In fact, he used to discourage the original owners from selling the amps.
In his security agreement, it states that the owner will never sell the equipment to anybody that could compromise circuit secrecy.

[vibratoking]

Gotta agree here. The OP was trying to ask some questions, but didn't want to (out of respect for the guy who built it) show the innards. To say "shame on you for your ethic" seems petty to me.

I know we've all benefited from seeing gut shots of actual Dumble amps, but I don't think it's right to taunt somebody for doing what Johnyswing did. That's his prerogative, and he shouldn't be berated for it. Maybe HAD asked him not to show off the guts. If so, he should be respected for sticking by a promise he made to HAD.

OK, have I missed something? No one said "shame on you for your ethic". I certainly can't find where that was stated in this thread. In fact, it was stated that it is fine for the OP to post what he wants. Again, no one said shame on you.

There was one comment about the OP being a troll. An apology was made. I can't find any other taunting or berating in this thread.

I think it would be better for everyone if we stick to what has actually been said in this thread. No reason to make a post that is not true.

Once again, the OP still has an opportunity to post anything he wants about the amp in order to have the discussion that he originally desired. There is no reason to run away because the original post did not generate what he wanted. If he really wants a discussion, he will figure out how to post something that will compel other members to respond in a positive way. The OP will determine whether a useful discussion will occur. Not the members. I am not aware of a forum with more people interested in Dumble amps. This forum is full of meaningful and interesting threads about them. Why did this thread fail to result in that type of discussion? Maybe, the OP didn't know what he wanted to discuss. Maybe he didn't consider his audience before he posted in order to determine the interests of the people he was speaking with. In my experience, if you give the forum members something interesting and real to discuss, the threads are very positive. One more time, the door is open and there is a forum full of interested members. If you can't generate postive interest, then rethink your post.

[greiswig]

Beg pardon. I thought I remembered him being accused of making a faux pas. You're absolutely right, nobody actually said "shame on him."

We now return you to your regularly scheduled program.

[husky]

I will try to post some pics soon. Nope there are not any send and returns on this amp.It's pretty much a Stock 59 Bassman chasis that was Dumbleized, then a God Ugly cabnit made for it. I did some work for a Good buddy of mine and he gave me this amp. I really do not know a whole lot about it other then Mr Dumble did do his magic on it. It even has his lable on the inside.

This is the problem, being on a amp builders forum people were let down thinking this would be internal shots. Being it was his first post he probably didn't realize what the forum was all about. My understanding is that it really isnt that different from stock, maybe JTM ized and ground paths, but I haven't heard one.

[Structo]

I was the one that used the term faux pas and I guess it didn't came across tongue in cheek as I intended.

Translation: False Step or indiscretion.

Can we just move on?

I don't see any reason for this to turn into a 25 page Gear Page thread......

[jaysg]

So does this mod retain the basic soul of a '59 Bassman, or is it simply a different amp built in that chassis? To say an amp sounds great with humbuckers is somewhat helpful, but not very helpful.

I'm think HAD is more of a burrito man than tostadas, but what do I know?

[rogb]

I was the one that used the term faux pas and I guess it didn't came across tongue in cheek as I intended.

Translation: False Step or indiscretion.

Can we just move on?

I don't see any reason for this to turn into a 25 page Gear Page thread......

Sorry, misread that, thought you wrote "faux PAB" - now that would be interesting

[Colossal]

Sorry, misread that, thought you wrote "faux PAB" - now that would be interesting

Hahaha, nice one Rob. That's a new button to add to a footswitch. It triggers a relay that instead of boosting your signal, it dumps it all to ground.

[Mark]

I LOVE mine, and is now my Best sounding amp I own. I do run some pedals in front of it to make her come alive for the Rock stuff.

I don't know why you guys are getting upset about.

I'm wondering what the amp did well.

I get a good rock sound from all my amps. I suppose we should have told him to build something with a HRM board.

This amp doesn't sound too special from the description, and the cab certain doesn't show any expertise, who is to say Johnny wasn't feed a line to get the sale?

When the dust settles, I think the thing to do with these type of guys is to redirect them to the Gear Page.

Cloning is okay, I learnt guitar by copying CD's. I'm the same with amps and it's working.

[Rob Livesey]

I've done a bit of asking around about this one, and it does seem that A. Dumble had many pet names for mod amps, the nearest thing we've found to a modded '59 bassman is the Manzamp. My friend Paul has sent me two pics of a Manzamp and for the first time in years I have updated the Dumble archive with the pics.

Link here: http://www.roblivesey.com/dumble/manzamp

Pics:

[img:750:563]http://personalpages.manchester.ac.uk/s ... zamp01.jpg[/img]

[img:604:800]http://personalpages.manchester.ac.uk/s ... zamp02.jpg[/img]

EDIT: Here's a stock '59 Reissue Panel. Clearly the Manzamp is not using the same chassis.
Pic:
[img:750:468]http://personalpages.manchester.ac.uk/s ... _panel.jpg[/img]

[Mark]

I'm not familiar with the insides of a stock Bassman. Is that a new PCB?

[Rob Livesey]

I'm not familiar with the insides of a stock Bassman. Is that a new PCB?

See my edit above. I don't think it's a stock bassman chassis.
Rob.