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Re: 100 Watt Output Transformer

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Really?

Yes, Triode Electronics sells the Magnetic Components transformers.

That is what I bought, the PT OT and choke for a Twin Reverb.

Are you saying the OT is not a 2K primary?

This is the 40-18013 100w 2K 4, 8, 16 ohm output transformer.

http://www.classictone.net/40-18013.html

Amps Used In: Showman**, Showman Reverb**, Dual Showman**, Dual Showman Reverb**, Twin Reverb**, Twin Reverb 100**, Quad Reverb 100**, Super Six Reverb 100**, Bassman 100**, '65 Twin Reverb Reissue**, Vibrasonic*

Description: Mounting = 2-3/8" x 3-1/4". This is the 4/8/16 Ohm version of the classic! Paper layer wound output transformer for that ultimate tone! Uses the best cool running, M-6 grain oriented steel for incredible performance! A great variant offering multiple impedances of 4, 8 and 16 Ohms!


The Twin transformer that AES sells now is a Hammond.

Although they do carry an OT for a Tonemaster which is a newer 100w Fender amp.

Specifications:

Wattage : 100
Primary Impedance (Ohms): 2350
Secondary Impedance (Ohms): 4, 8, 16
Mounting Centers : 3.5" x 2.5" vertical
Weight: 6.25 lbs

That is a 4 x 6L6 amp, why do they use a 2350 ohm primary?

[img:110:86]http://www.tubesandmore.com/cemirror/in ... 478-TH.GIF[/img]

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Re: 100 Watt Output Transformer

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AH, I was able to see the label on a Angela OT.
606
That is Schumacher isn't it?
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Re: 100 Watt Output Transformer

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No they measure 2K P/P. but the primary and secondary windings are of a different construction than the original schumachers. Meaning that the actual number of turns is probably different, the gauge of the wire is different etc etc.

There are a lot of ways to spin up a 2K transformer.

If I remember tonight I will look up the measurements I took a while back and post them.

Gary


Structo wrote:Really?

Yes, Triode Electronics sells the Magnetic Components transformers.

That is what I bought, the PT OT and choke for a Twin Reverb.

Are you saying the OT is not a 2K primary?

This is the 40-18013 100w 2K 4, 8, 16 ohm output transformer.

http://www.classictone.net/40-18013.html

Amps Used In: Showman**, Showman Reverb**, Dual Showman**, Dual Showman Reverb**, Twin Reverb**, Twin Reverb 100**, Quad Reverb 100**, Super Six Reverb 100**, Bassman 100**, '65 Twin Reverb Reissue**, Vibrasonic*

Description: Mounting = 2-3/8" x 3-1/4". This is the 4/8/16 Ohm version of the classic! Paper layer wound output transformer for that ultimate tone! Uses the best cool running, M-6 grain oriented steel for incredible performance! A great variant offering multiple impedances of 4, 8 and 16 Ohms!


The Twin transformer that AES sells now is a Hammond.

Although they do carry an OT for a Tonemaster which is a newer 100w Fender amp.

Specifications:

Wattage : 100
Primary Impedance (Ohms): 2350
Secondary Impedance (Ohms): 4, 8, 16
Mounting Centers : 3.5" x 2.5" vertical
Weight: 6.25 lbs

That is a 4 x 6L6 amp, why do they use a 2350 ohm primary?

[img:110:86]http://www.tubesandmore.com/cemirror/in ... 478-TH.GIF[/img]

Who makes transformers with the oval shaped bells?
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Re: 100 Watt Output Transformer

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Another interesting point is that the vintage Showman trannies were about 1900 p/p (measured) as compared to a twin part that was 2K.
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Re: 100 Watt Output Transformer

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Tom - go all out and get a Mercury FTHPT-OMA, huge sound
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Re: 100 Watt Output Transformer

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Hammond has a Fender line. The 4/8/16 2000 ohm OT is 1760W. Dave Allen was selling/recommending them for a while. I bought a Heyboer from Brandon. I won't be able to get at the HTS number 'til Monday.

[edit] HTS-4578-1
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+1 on the Mercury transformers. I have never scratch built a amp with Mercury,
but I have rebuilt fenders and marshall with the Mercury transformers
and every time

I say to my self I want this amp :D
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Henry, what is it that makes the Mercury FTHPT-OMA so great, is it the hi-power tweed Twin part or the Mercury Magnetics part?

I had always heard that the Triad tweed OTs were higher quality than the Schumacher BF OTs, is that the answer?
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Re: 100 Watt Output Transformer

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heisthl wrote:Tom - go all out and get a Mercury FTHPT-OMA, huge sound
Wow, those go for $190! :shock:


Well I already bought the MC trannys.

@ Brian, interestingly I got an email last night from Triode Electronics stating they were temporarily out of the 1804 PT.........
****tards.

I really have a problem with an Ebay auction where you buy it now and it turns out the part you just bought is out of stock.
Isn't there a rule against that?

Lisa from Triode said they will ship it to me Wed. the 29th.

Not really a problem because I don't have any of the other parts but just the same, when I buy something listed on ebay I don't want an later email telling me they are out of stock.
Especially when the ebay ad says they have 4 bundles in stock. :x
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I've had backorders with them too, on more than one occasion. I order directly from the website, not on E-Bay.
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Re: 100 Watt Output Transformer

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Well you are dealing with the same company, same people.
It's just another marketing tool for them.
But what I find objectionable is the Ebay ad said they had 4 sets in stock.
Apparently not. :x
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Re: 100 Watt Output Transformer

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The last time Triode did that to me I got free shipping for waiting for the transformer.
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Re: 100 Watt Output Transformer

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Yes that one is a good choice as well.
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Re: 100 Watt Output Transformer

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M Fowler wrote:The last time Triode did that to me I got free shipping for waiting for the transformer.
How do they do that?
I already paid through paypal.
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