Speaker Reconing

[guitardude57]

Same with Sound Speaker Repair. Do the kit request form. They get back to you quick.

[Cliff Schecht]

Thanks guys, I will do this soon. I think I'll try Legacy Sound Service first, their prices look a little better.

I put one of the Celestions that has been reglued already in an old PA box last night and it sounded pretty good. I'd still like to get these both fixed though so I can put them in a 2x12 cab.

[Structo]

The problem with the LSS kits is that the voice coil and spider are not glued to the cone yet.
That seems like it would be pretty tricky like Dana said.

[UR12]

Try the guys at reconekits.com. They can make about anything in a drop in. The drop in kits are always more expensive but if you figure in your time glueing up all the stuf that they do for you it is well worth the money.

[1stickman]

You can call or email Legacy Sound Service anytime day or night from anywhere in the world and we'll do our best to help you. We won't pretend not to be who we are like some other folks on this post who want to steer you to make your purchases from them. We state loudly and proudly that our parts are the best in the world. Everyone uses them!! Major manufacturers and even www.recone.com & simply speakers, etc. The point is all these parts come from the same place. Some say their kits are original. That would mean those kits came from the original manufacturer. That isn't true. Parts might originate at the same factories, but stating that something is original when it's not is very misleading. A monkey can drop a pre-built kit into a frame, but it requires skill and precision to recone and understand how a speaker works, how different parts relate to others & how they fit together, why it goes together like it does, etc. There's a reason LSS prices are low. It's because the labor costs of assembly have been passed to the consumer. This allows you to do your own work and not have to pay for something you can do yourself. Plus you know you've touched every part and built the kit perfectly to fit your exact frame.

[Cliff Schecht]

Very cool and thanks for the heads up! Obviously I'm no expert so I'm looking for stupid simple for this reconing .

I know of one huge supplier of speaker parts but from my talking to other speaker reconers around town they are very territorial and only like to sell to certain people. One of my good friends up here has been trying to get an account for years but they simply will not budge..

[UR12]

We won't pretend not to be who we are like some other folks on this post who want to steer you to make your purchases from them.

I am not sure who you are talking about "on this post". We have threw out a few different companies names for Cliff to try and your company's name ,along with a few others, come up a couple of times by myself and different posters. We try and help each other out here and even though some of us may have a side business building amps it is not how the majority of us put food on the table and it's not all about making money.

Maybe I am in left field here and am missunderstanding the meaning of your above statement but personally I don't see a need to put a competitors product down on a public forum just to make a sale. I don't run a speaker reconing business and I am by far no expert but I do repair speakers for some local music stores and sound companies from time to time and have used kits from a lot of the suppliers mentioned. They have all provided me with good service and products and have never tried to sell me something as original. The last "Original" manufacturer kits I personally purchased was way back in the mid 80s and two of them that come to mind was factory kits direct from Yamaha and CV. So if everyone is buying their components from someone like MWA then what you are saying is everyone is selling the same thing and the price reflects the value of the service you are supplying. The companies that are selling the drop in kits are charging more because they have labor involved in preassembling.

The link I posted to your site didn't show any "Drop in" kits. Since Cliff has never done a recone before, I think it is prudent for him to purchase a drop in kit instead of trying to rebuild a speaker out of seperate parts. There is just too much to go wrong if you don't know what you are doing. Unlike the pre-built, not every caveman or monkey can do it. That's why I suggested him to call or email you guys to see if you had a drop in kit for his particular model.

[1stickman]

Yep...left field......... but it's all good. Please accepy my apology if I offended you or anyone else. That wasn't the intent. I was just presenting additional facts and info. LSS has been in the biz some 35 years now. We're here for the people..... those average middle class blue collar folks with tight budgets. No one gets turned away. This is not an advertisement. Our mission is to help anyone who wants to repair a speaker realize that they can do it. Our focus is quality, not quantity. It doesn't matter at all if a customer purchases from another supplier. If another has a better product, we'll inform inquiries about that too. Explaining the differences between products wasn't intended to put any competitor or their products down. All these parts are quality. We love building relationships with other suppliers. It's good to help one another and another avenue of providing quality products and services to our collective customers. It's not about money. Money takes care of itself because customer service is a top priority. Stating the reasons for higher prices on drop-in kits doesn't differ too much from stating that we pass labor costs in the form of savings to our customers, yes no?? Even we purchase drop-ins when necessary. We like letting folks know that reconing isn't as difficult as some might think. The monkey statement wasn't intended to be an insult or insinuation about anyone's intelligence, but drop-in kits are a matter of motivation, saving time, & convenience. Anyone can recone a speaker from raw parts if they follow instructions and take their time. Even my 15 year old daughter works our bench when she needs extra money. She's good too & will be a great engineer one of these days! Anyway, we'll answer anyone's questions about reconing. Learning how to recone successfully is as easy as a phone call, email, or online research. Just saying.............. it's all good.

[Bear]

[Cliff Schecht]

1stick, I got no negative intentions from your post. I didn't feel that you were pushing your product as superior either, but I do appreciate that you took the time to discuss your products and different options I have. Perhaps you could help me develop a kit for the ancient speaker I posted on the last page too .

[1stickman]

1stick, I got no negative intentions from your post. I didn't feel that you were pushing your product as superior either, but I do appreciate that you took the time to discuss your products and different options I have. Perhaps you could help me develop a kit for the ancient speaker I posted on the last page too

It looks like an old Jensen/CTS/Motorola at first glance, but it could be an old Celestion that was OEM'ed for another company like VOX or someone. What it came out of is anyone's guess, but the organ people mostly used Jensen's CxxxL series. We may have to spec it out to match parts for you, but I'm 100% sure we can hook you up. Get some basic measuring tools and spec the dimensions of the Cone depth, Voice Coil diameter & heighth, Spider type (Cup or Flat) & diameter. Be as precise as you can and email the info to phil@legacysoundservice.com. I'll get you what you need and help you through the process.

[UR12]

OK, Sorry for the misunderstanding. So for future reference for the rest of us monkeys, are you saying that LSS doesn't supply "Drop In Kits", only just a kit of seperate parts and this is because your belief is that any 15 year old girl with a set of instructions can install your kits and make them work?

[1stickman]

The info is free to all and very few are incapable of successfully reconing a speaker. Ultimately it's up to the consumer how much work they want to do, & how much time they want to spend doing it. Some prefer the convenience of a drop-in kit, and some want to further develop their understanding & capabilities by digging a little deeper into the discipline. That usually yields some savings as a result.

[Noel Grassy]

I've had JBLs re-coned and the techs have told me they need to
re-magnetize the magnet when they're done. Does this require
some KingHell electrical apparatus and expensive Gauss meter? I
suppose this may be part of the method JBL wants to teach their
future re-cone clients. I'm only guessing and would like to understand a little more about this magnet aspect.
I haven't followed the video link previously posted, perhaps this
info is in there.

1stickman, will you specifically indicate the party in this thread who is
pretending to be something other than their true selves? How specifically was UR12 in "left field"? How is your post elevated above typical spamming? The previous posts were apparently third party types recommending a service.

I too believed this site was populated for the most part by individuals who took part with the intention of furthering the
development of tube amps and their related implements without
the insidious business practices, among them self promotion.

Monkeys on speakers!
{said in the character of Phil Ken Sebben as voiced by Steven Colbert on Harvey Birdman, Attorney at Law}


NG.

[UR12]

Good luck Noel I have had to read between the lines as there has been no direct yes/no answer to my question. I am assuming from his response that they don't sell drop in kits for the Celestions. I just though it strange for a guy to come here and make that his first post without even an introduction. Got to love a salesman

I think the old Alnico were more prone to needing remagnetized but you can remagnetize pretty much any speaker magnet. IIRC the Alnicos were more suseptable to losing magnetism from being dropped banged around. It does require special equipment, mainly a large coil that gets a burst of DC current for a short period of time. I have never personally done it but have talked to guys who provide the service. I am not sure if the magnet needs to be removed from the frame but if it does that would really be a pain to reassemble for us monkeys.