Donar amp find, and an EVM recone question
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Donar amp find, and an EVM recone question
A friend of mine's Father-in-law passed away and left his home to my friend. Which cleaning out the basement he came across a Peavey Mace combo. 6 - 6L6s and SS preamp, well known for being Ed King of Lynard Skynard's go to amp. 
In the combo cab are 2 EVM12L's, OEM version so I assume original. They're both blown, one is open the other almost no output so both need reconing.
I'm thinking that this would be a great platform for an SSS of sorts. Instead of 4 6550's it'd be approx the same insane power with 6-6L6s.
Now about the recone. This place sells recone kits, ready to go, voice coil and spider installed so all that remains is gluing the assembly in place using the shim they supply. http://www.soundspeakerrepair.com/ $60 for the kit. Would I be insane to attempt this myself with 0 experience in reconing?
The other thought is to sell the raw frames but I really like EVMs and the price was right ($0)
			
			
									
									
						In the combo cab are 2 EVM12L's, OEM version so I assume original. They're both blown, one is open the other almost no output so both need reconing.
I'm thinking that this would be a great platform for an SSS of sorts. Instead of 4 6550's it'd be approx the same insane power with 6-6L6s.
Now about the recone. This place sells recone kits, ready to go, voice coil and spider installed so all that remains is gluing the assembly in place using the shim they supply. http://www.soundspeakerrepair.com/ $60 for the kit. Would I be insane to attempt this myself with 0 experience in reconing?
The other thought is to sell the raw frames but I really like EVMs and the price was right ($0)
Re: Donar amp find, and an EVM recone question
After looking at the video, I'm sure you could do it, Bob. I've done surrounds, but no recones. Now you've got me thinking it's time to try one of those kits on a nasty sounding Mesa Black Widow.
			
			
									
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Re: Donar amp find, and an EVM recone question
I have used that kit  ,they supply the glue and the shim for centering the assy.not hard at all and the speaker has been in service for three years without any problems .
I can't say if they sound exactly like the originals as they were blown when I got them .they came out of a silver face twin that I bought for a $100.00 bucks the amp still in service also
go for it unless your all thumbs you can do it.
neil
			
			
									
									
						I can't say if they sound exactly like the originals as they were blown when I got them .they came out of a silver face twin that I bought for a $100.00 bucks the amp still in service also
go for it unless your all thumbs you can do it.
neil
Re: Donar amp find, and an EVM recone question
Thx guys. I have a lot of work to do on that amp before I get to the recone but it's good to know that it's possible for about 1/2 the going rate.
			
			
									
									
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I haven't done it before either.
I would assume that centering the voice coil is the most critical part of it.
As long as the instructions are good and you do a bit of research about it I wouldn't think it is that hard to do.
Probably one of those things where once you do it you will recognize what is crucial to get right.
I haven't watched the video but how do you get the shim out once you glue the cone?
Just watched the video.
Piece of cake!
The dust cap looks to be probably the most difficult.
I thought it would be more like rocket science!
			
			
									
									I would assume that centering the voice coil is the most critical part of it.
As long as the instructions are good and you do a bit of research about it I wouldn't think it is that hard to do.
Probably one of those things where once you do it you will recognize what is crucial to get right.
I haven't watched the video but how do you get the shim out once you glue the cone?
Just watched the video.
Piece of cake!
The dust cap looks to be probably the most difficult.
I thought it would be more like rocket science!
Tom
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Re: Donar amp find, and an EVM recone question
Messed around and did a few re-cones on several EV's a few years back not rocket science indeed.. It's almost worth paying someone the 50-60 bucks to do it so you don't have to smell the glue removing solvents the worst part of the whole job.. MEK is not as bad and strips most anything off metal quickly..You can get it at Home Depot Still throw on the mask and gloves!!..
Tony
			
			
									
									Tony
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						Re: Donar amp find, and an EVM recone question
I have done some re-cones and they all came out well, not hard just careful work.  An important thing to remember with EVs is the shipping.  Those are so heavy shipping across the street will be at least $25 each way.  By the time you ship and re-cone it will often come to $100-150 per speaker depending on where and who you use.   
Eric
			
			
									
									
						Eric
Re: Donar amp find, and an EVM recone question
Thx guys, my confidence is growing. Yes, shipping these speakers is out of the question, I'd be better off selling them. 
So who's willing to share their SSS experience? I have tons of partial information.
			
			
									
									
						So who's willing to share their SSS experience? I have tons of partial information.
Re: Donar amp find, and an EVM recone question
dreric wrote:I have done some re-cones and they all came out well, not hard just careful work. An important thing to remember with EVs is the shipping. Those are so heavy shipping across the street will be at least $25 each way. By the time you ship and re-cone it will often come to $100-150 per speaker depending on where and who you use.
Eric
Re-cones for EVL/M's run between 85.00 Speaker Doctor/95.00 OC speakers.. Here is a price sheet for Orange county speaker... They are one of the most expensive re-coners Ive run across.. Recone kits can run between 60.00 to 70.00 add in shipping and solvent to remove the old glue your looking at around 85.00 bucks there..
Get someone who knows what they are doing and usually get a year warranty to boot..EV's weigh exactly 10lbs..I can ship 1 of those to the west coast from DC for about $16.00..Wanna get in a low/No margin business.. Re-cone speakers//
Bob Good Luck with the re-cones..
http://www.speakerrepair.com/ocsrepairprice.html
http://www.soundspeakerrepair.com/speak ... Voice+Kits
Tony
" The psychics on my bench is the same as Dumble'"
						Re: Donar amp find, and an EVM recone question
Mine weighs 19 lbs. You got ripped!talbany wrote:EV's weigh exactly 10lbs..
Tony
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Re: Donar amp find, and an EVM recone question
Your right my bad.. My OEM EV comes in @ 17 Lbs.. 
Tony
			
			
									
									Tony
" The psychics on my bench is the same as Dumble'"
						Re: Donar amp find, and an EVM recone question
Thx guys, I'v seen all the places and prices, that's why I want to do it myself. By the time I spend $95 each, plus shipping I could sell the raw frames and buy new ones.  
 
BTW, have you SEEN the prices on JBL D120 reconning? $248 plus shipping
  That old JBL will have to stay broken.
			
			
									
									
						BTW, have you SEEN the prices on JBL D120 reconning? $248 plus shipping
Re: Donar amp find, and an EVM recone question
The cost on the JBLs is due to the voice coil.  they use a flat winding, but 90% of the repairs I have completed, the coils are intact, and all that's needed is either a new spider / or cone.
			
			
									
									
						Re: Donar amp find, and an EVM recone question
Problem with this one is a voice coil rub, do you think a spider will fix that?BobW wrote:The cost on the JBLs is due to the voice coil. they use a flat winding, but 90% of the repairs I have completed, the coils are intact, and all that's needed is either a new spider / or cone.
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Re: Donar amp find, and an EVM recone question
I have a EVM12 that had a similar problem.Bob-I wrote:Problem with this one is a voice coil rub, do you think a spider will fix that?BobW wrote:The cost on the JBLs is due to the voice coil. they use a flat winding, but 90% of the repairs I have completed, the coils are intact, and all that's needed is either a new spider / or cone.
I was able to loosen the screws holding the magnet and move the magnet a little bit by gently hammering a couple of times after which I tightened the screws.
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