General disclaimer and waiver of liability

[skyboltone]

For outdoor gigs, isn't it code to use GFI circuits on all the stage power?

I have wondered about that before and whether or not they would perform very well with a huge current draw.

I know in the construction industry they had to have GFI on all outside power.

The trouble was when you were working in the rain, if the plug ends got wet it would trip the GFI.
Very frustrating to do work in the rain because you were always running over to the spider box to reset the GFI.

Basically if anything you were using got wet it tripped the breaker.

GFCI no good on DC side of circuit. Only good on AC side. Only takes a few mills to fry your ass but good if a plate supply gets loose.

[Reeltarded]

Stop it. That's scary.

[Leo_Gnardo]

About ground fault interruptor outlets. An old friend of mine 'splained to me that the way they work is comparing the current on the hot side to current on the neutral. If they differ, pop goes the breaker. Any experts want to 'splain some more or expand on this, I'd like to know more. Thanx!

[skyboltone]

Area detectives are conducting (rimshot please) a death investigation.


http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/1465 ... story.html

[skyboltone]

About ground fault interruptor outlets. An old friend of mine 'splained to me that the way they work is comparing the current on the hot side to current on the neutral. If they differ, pop goes the breaker. Any experts want to 'splain some more or expand on this, I'd like to know more. Thanx!

Yup. That's how they work. There are personnel protecting GFCI set for 5 miliamps and equipment protecting GFCI set for 25 mills. In the olden days they were constantly nuisance tripping. The new stuff isn't bad. Obviously they don't work across transformers. Right? Think about it; if you take a service that is referenced to ground at the pole and at the service entrance like here in the states and then put 120 volts from that service trough a 1:1 transformer you can grab either end of the secondary coil with your hand and put your tongue on your water pipe and never blink. Hence, the GFCI can't "see" across the iron gap even if the DC side is referenced to ground through the filter caps.

[sepulchre]

So I imagine amp kit producers are in the same boat, eh?

Well, like the man said, "Better cash in your chips, boys. We're headin down a Dangerous road!"

Actually, I figure it would be alright to build for my close friends (like family) or even my family, given they know how to keep from being too stupid. Hey, they use other amps all the time and they're still kicking. But anybody else . . . nah.

[Structo]

A man was electrocuted trying to remove copper wires from a Brighton Park neighborhood building on the Southwest Side Tuesday afternoon.

I love it!

I'm almost sure his family will sue the city for damages, even though the dipsh!t was stealing wire.

I remember years ago we were plastering a huge apartment complex.
We had hired some non native speaking sheetrock hangers to install plasterboard.
When it came time for the electrician to finish up some units he said that,
the wires weren't in the boxes.
Turns out the hangers had stripped about five apartments of all the Romex.

Can you say do over?

[Leo_Gnardo]

We had hired some non native speaking sheetrock hangers to install plasterboard.

Even in Oregon it's still hard to find people who speak Tlingit.

[eddie25]

I want to make the case that boutique amp makers are probably taking on a disproportionate amount of risk. Though it pains me to say it, I'd urge you to find some other way to make money. Don't get me wrong here, I admire the entrepreneurial spirit, but modern government and jurisprudence and the like have really done enough to ruin it for some people. I, for one, just can't reason this out to the point where I'm willing to say "chuck it, I'll do it anyway (OK, it begins with another letter),"

We live in a really sad time. I am honestly apprehensive to type what I actually think here because I don't want to be targeted by the people I pay almost half my money to. I am a stand up guy, never caused or will cause any problems, just trying to live my life happy. We are being run by the mob essentially.

I don't even make amps for money, I do it because I like to and I sell them to break even, should I still quit, or am I risking jail time? I could care less if they take all my money to be honest.

[Leo_Gnardo]

am I risking jail time?

AFAIK no. Who knows what the future will bring. Debtor's prison? Civil trials don't ordinarily result in jail time except maybe for instances of "contempt of court" if you get the judge PO'd.

I'm no lawyer but I have stayed in a Holiday Inn Express. All the other hotels too FWIW...

[Leo_Gnardo]

Listening right now to a broadcast of Jean Shepherd's 4th of July classic "Ludlow Kissell and the Dago Bomb". Printed on the base of the enormous firework "Manufacturer takes absolutely no reponsibility for this device".

Considering the destructive capability of the "dago bomb", that was a hell of a disclaimer. After all it "is" supposed to explode with enormous force.

If anyone needs a good laugh, google Ludlow Kissell and you can find Jean reading it on MP3. Good to get a break from all this serious stuff.

[Reeltarded]

http://www.snuhfiles.com/sound/jean-she ... issell.mp3

Fun already and the fanfare hasn't even stopped!

[sepulchre]

So, independent amp builders are forced to very carefully pick and choose their customers. Hmm, sounds familiar?

[sepulchre]

(double post... dang connection!)

[Reeltarded]

It's a good reason not to work on crappy PC board amps. i am ok with it.