Eminence Delta Pro-12A in DRRI

[stratcat62]

It's time to replace the stock speaker in my DRRI. I've got Eminence Delta Pro-12A's in my Twin and I've been demo-ing one of the speakers in my Deluxe with great results. Are there any similar speakers I should check out before I go ahead and get another Delta Pro? I'm not looking for speaker cone breakup, I want a clean, loud, and efficient speaker. Has anyone tried the EVM-12L Classic in a blackface setting?

[Structo]

I recently bought a EVM12L Classic for my D'Lite amp.
A great speaker but more expensive than the Delta Pro at about $230.

I just wish they made the Delta Pro in a 16 ohm model.

I would pair that with my EVM 12L and it would be heaven.

[stratcat62]

Is the EVM Classic worth the extra $100? Like, will I be wow-ed by the difference between the Delta Pro and the EVM?

[FunkyE9th]

Look into the Eminence Red White and Blues. Here's a review of several Eminence speakers... http://www.allenamps.com/Eminence/TQRApr05.pdf

[Structo]

I don't have a clue as I haven't heard the Delta Pro.

I think from what I have read that they are similar to each other in that they don't impart anything and let the amp shine through.

What you put in you get out, in other words.

I can't figure out why Eminence would make most of their speakers only in 8 ohm.

A lot of people use 2 x 12's and 412's these days.

I don't like to run a 4 ohm cab, and if I ran the Pro with my EVM, that would bring it down near there and not be balanced at all.

Right now I am running a WareHouse Classic Lead 80 clone with the EVM 12L and while it doesn't sound too bad, I would love to stick either another EVM in there or perhaps a Celestion 1265.

[Tubetwang]

i have 3x 1-12 cabs here. All great!

A Private Jack, a Red White and Blues and a Delta Pro.

If i was you i'd put a Delta in there, pocket the change and be done with it...it's that good.

Red White and blues would be my next choice...

Eminence speakers are great speakers built in America.

That is a rare commodity now-a-days...

[billyz]

I must have gotten a funky EV12L Classic. It sounds rather constipated in a Deluxe Reverb. I think it needs more amplifier to really push it. Sounded like it had a blanket over it compared to a Jensen P12N or The C12N that is it now. Deluxe reverbs also sound good with an Alnico Celestion or Weber Alnico celestion type speaker but of around 30-50 watt rated. I think the higher power rated speakers need more amp to really open up.
But again maybe I got a funky one. It is the new Reissue not the original EV12L.

[iknowjohnny]

I would love to hear a detailed comparison of the 12L and delta. I have used 12L's for years, but recently i have been using a celestion 100 because while i love the feel and dynamics and killer response and punch of EV's, other dedicated guitar speakers tend to have more richness in the top end especially. The EV doesn't have that. Like someone said, it puts out only what goes in. And thats great up to a point, but when you plat a speaker like a celestion next to it you do hear more richness and chime.

So when i first heard of the delta speakers i wondered if they took the EV idea and made it feel/sound like one but with that extra chime and richness added. I saw one post somewhere by a guy who said to just stick with the good old EV because it's really better. I'd love to know without having to buy one and end up losing money.

[Tubetwang]

I would love to hear a detailed comparison of the 12L and delta. I have used 12L's for years, but recently i have been using a celestion 100 because while i love the feel and dynamics and killer response and punch of EV's, other dedicated guitar speakers tend to have more richness in the top end especially. The EV doesn't have that. Like someone said, it puts out only what goes in. And thats great up to a point, but when you plat a speaker like a celestion next to it you do hear more richness and chime.

So when i first heard of the delta speakers i wondered if they took the EV idea and made it feel/sound like one but with that extra chime and richness added. I saw one post somewhere by a guy who said to just stick with the good old EV because it's really better. I'd love to know without having to buy one and end up losing money.

In my experience, the only way to know is to buy one, and, maybe loose money...

Other folks opinions, are just that.

Jimi was right.

All i can say is that with me Delta Pro and other Emi, my quest for speakers is over.

Great sound, great price.

[iknowjohnny]

All i can say is that with me Delta Pro and other Emi, my quest for speakers is over

have you used a 12L before? If so i'd like to hear your assessment. i realize opinions are just that, but i'd like to hear facts about the differences. for example, which has more high end, which has more harmonic content, etc. things that aren't subjective. Now i realize some will maybe assess those things wrongly, but i think most people can fairly accurately report the factual stuff.

[Structo]

I have also heard good things about the Red, White and Blues speaker.

It was the go to speaker for a while here in the D clones.

[Tubetwang]

All i can say is that with me Delta Pro and other Emi, my quest for speakers is over

have you used a 12L before? If so i'd like to hear your assessment. i realize opinions are just that, but i'd like to hear facts about the differences. for example, which has more high end, which has more harmonic content, etc. things that aren't subjective. Now i realize some will maybe assess those things wrongly, but i think most people can fairly accurately report the factual stuff.

No i've never used a 12L.

It is raved about in some circle...i'm sure it's a good speaker but...

Speaker's sweet spot for me is around a 100$ or less. I would not pay more... considering Emi's value. But that is me...

I'll split hair to find the best value for money in everything i buy.

[billyz]

The EV12L Classic I have now does not have more harmonic content. It is fairly tight sounding. Don't know about the Delta or to compare the two.

I just tried it with an Express amp and did not care for it either, just does not breathe like a good celestion or scumback. no high chime and the mids seem recessed in comparison.

Others really like the EV12L, but it's not for me. Maybe in a real high powered amp.

YMMV

[iknowjohnny]

Well, maybe it's just me, but i see two completely independant attribute in speakers that i can't seem to find in one. The EV has the attribute of having a fast response and powerful feel and sound that cuts thru a band mix and sounds virtually the same when in a mix or when auditioning it by itself say at home or wherever. The second attribute is tone itself. The richness and chime and all thet. The EV does not excel there, but it does in the latter. Most dedicated guitar speakers are the exact opposite in that they have all that chime and harmonic content and all, but because they don't have the same powefull ability to cut thru the mix the way a EV does, lots of the time you lose all that detail anyways and end up without the advantage they have over the EV. And not having that cut/power the EV has you are at times left with nothing and your tone goes to $hit. Thats what i used EV.....because whatever goodness they DO have in the tone, it comes thru the mix nite after nite and never fails.

I hope that explains what I at least hear/feel. And you can then see why i asked about the delta....i want a speaker that has the advantage of the EV but adds the richness and chime of many other dedicated guitar speakers in hopes that the EV-like cut would allow the other stuff to always make it thru the band mix. Theres probably a speaker out there that does this, and the delta looks like the most likely one.

[Tubetwang]

I'm just a play at home daddy so i would'nt know about cutting through the rest of the band.