Is it possible to unwind a power trans to lower voltage ?

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Is it possible to unwind a power trans to lower voltage ?

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I have a large collection of beefy iron and most of my voltages are pretty high in the 340-340 to 410-410 range for big octal tubes of old PA amps and old wall voltage. I would like to reuse these beasts but other than fitting these amps with Dana's VVR or a ridiculously expensive zener, could I unwind the HV secondary on these old transformers ? I don't know if that winding tends to be the first or last to go on but has anyone done it ? Is it practical or another weekend lost ? I found nothing in my searches so it must either be obvious or I'm the first one to think of it. Probably the former.
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Re: Is it possible to unwind a power trans to lower voltage ?

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I have been wondering the same thing for a long time. I am guessing that if the high voltage winding is the last one on the bobbin, then it might be possible if it is a single winding meant for a bridge rectifier. Otherwise you would have to unwind to the center tap, take a bit off, then wind back on the other half to match the first half.
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Re: Is it possible to unwind a power trans to lower voltage ?

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I see, good point about the rectifier and center tap. I guess that the sec. would have a monster amount of turns to unwind to get to the CT, even if it was the last winding.
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Re: Is it possible to unwind a power trans to lower voltage ?

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You can always add a series transformer with the secondary in phase or out of phase to boost or to buck, unwinding is a pain since you need to undo all the laminations
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Re: Is it possible to unwind a power trans to lower voltage ?

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Hi there,

here is a link to a circuit that will allow you use inexpensive parts
to achieve voltage reduction.
members.optusnet.com.au/eyes.only/vj_mods_3/Zener2%20Lower%20B+.pdf

cheers
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Re: Is it possible to unwind a power trans to lower voltage ?

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You could also build a choke input power supply to drop your voltages down, tho it will require a hefty choke that can handle your original high voltage. Perhaps combine that with a tube rectifier with a big voltage drop to drop it some too.

What kind of voltages are you looking for? Your 340-0-340 PT will yield about 480 DC when rectified and a 5U4GT rectifier will drop about 44 volts per side, so that would give you about 392 VDC... about perfect for a Wreck... and you can drop that further with a choke input filter supply...
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Re: Is it possible to unwind a power trans to lower voltage ?

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Could you use an internally adjustable VVR circuit to tune the voltage to any desired value?
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That's the direction I'm going. Thanks.
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Just keep it simple and use a wirewound power resistor in series with the secondary.
I'm mainly interested in Class A Single Ended Amplifiers,although switchable NF would be OK.
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chopstuck wrote:I would like to reuse these beasts but other than fitting these amps with Dana's VVR or a ridiculously expensive zener,
You can use a cheap zener and add a powerful transistor to pass the wanted current. Transistors are cheap.
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Re: Is it possible to unwind a power trans to lower voltage ?

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I would just increase the first dropping resistor to bring them all down.
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