Bus bar w/ copper rod
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Bus bar w/ copper rod
Can a solid copper rod be used in place of a stripped bus bar wire?? I would select an appropriate diameter.
			
			
									
									
						Re: Bus bar w/ copper rod
Yup! Just don't use to thick a piece or it will take a blow torch to solder something to it!
			
			
									
									
						Re: Bus bar w/ copper rod
Yes, I use 3/32" brass bar from the local hardware store. Easy to solder and bends/holds shape well.
			
			
									
									
						Brass over copper
Is brass as good a conductor as copper? 
Does brass tend to be stiffer?
Can any tonal variation be heard in these materials?
Does the ground buss have any effect on tone at all?
			
			
									
									
						Does brass tend to be stiffer?
Can any tonal variation be heard in these materials?
Does the ground buss have any effect on tone at all?
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				Andy Le Blanc
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Re: Bus bar w/ copper rod
the issue with metals is conductivity
with wire its ohms per foot
copper is the standard
if copper is a 1.....then
siver .94
Aluminium 1.7
brass 3.57
iron 5.65
lead 14.3
tin 7.7
and yes differnt metals or alloys do contribute to the
sound of an amp
for a current drain or ground bus the objective is to provided
the least restriction or impeadance to current
trying diffent metals in the signal carrying runs of your amps
dress would be the best places to tryout and listen for their
effects on your amps sonic content..... all though a guitar amp
isnt usually the best for critical listening ... give it a shot
I stumbled upon a web site on a search for silver wire that
also sold cotton sleeve material to make your own wire...
			
			
									
									with wire its ohms per foot
copper is the standard
if copper is a 1.....then
siver .94
Aluminium 1.7
brass 3.57
iron 5.65
lead 14.3
tin 7.7
and yes differnt metals or alloys do contribute to the
sound of an amp
for a current drain or ground bus the objective is to provided
the least restriction or impeadance to current
trying diffent metals in the signal carrying runs of your amps
dress would be the best places to tryout and listen for their
effects on your amps sonic content..... all though a guitar amp
isnt usually the best for critical listening ... give it a shot
I stumbled upon a web site on a search for silver wire that
also sold cotton sleeve material to make your own wire...
lazymaryamps
						Re: Bus bar w/ copper rod
Andy,Andy Le Blanc wrote:the issue with metals is conductivity
with wire its ohms per foot
copper is the standard
if copper is a 1.....then
siver .94
Aluminium 1.7
brass 3.57
iron 5.65
lead 14.3
tin 7.7
Do you know the number for steel (like the kind used in amp chassis')? Similar to iron? More/less?
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				Andy Le Blanc
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- Location: central Maine
Re: Bus bar w/ copper rod
the electrical resistivity of metals is expressed in microhm-cm
copper has an electrical resistivity of 1.7 microhm-cm
aluminum is good for chassis because it does not form an oxide as
readilly as copper and has an electrical resistivity of 4 microhm-cm
plain carbon steel has an electrical resistivity of 10 microhm-cm
 
and stainless has an electrical resistivity of 72 microhm-cm
iron can range from "ingot" with an electrical resistivity of 9 microhm-cm
to "cast gray iron" with an electrical resistivity of 67 microhm-cm
the figures are from the "Handbook of Chemistry and Physics"
			
			
									
									copper has an electrical resistivity of 1.7 microhm-cm
aluminum is good for chassis because it does not form an oxide as
readilly as copper and has an electrical resistivity of 4 microhm-cm
plain carbon steel has an electrical resistivity of 10 microhm-cm
and stainless has an electrical resistivity of 72 microhm-cm
iron can range from "ingot" with an electrical resistivity of 9 microhm-cm
to "cast gray iron" with an electrical resistivity of 67 microhm-cm
the figures are from the "Handbook of Chemistry and Physics"
lazymaryamps
						Re: Bus bar w/ copper rod
I like to use copper 12g wire from Nomex wire.  The ground wire in there is already unsheathed.  The hot and neutral wires just have simple insulation on them that is relatively easy to strip.
My 60W iron has zero trouble soldering to it. My 35W iron doesn't really struggle either, but it isn't as quick.
			
			
									
									My 60W iron has zero trouble soldering to it. My 35W iron doesn't really struggle either, but it isn't as quick.
Wife: How many amps do you need?
Me: Just one more...
						Me: Just one more...
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				Andy Le Blanc
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- Location: central Maine
Re: Bus bar w/ copper rod
I had my well pump replaced five or six years back
and ended up with around 1000' of mondo guage copper
have to use a 230 w gun to stick things to it
a real pain but it seems to make a difference
			
			
									
									and ended up with around 1000' of mondo guage copper
have to use a 230 w gun to stick things to it
a real pain but it seems to make a difference
lazymaryamps
						

