40W and 60W incandescents to be retired as of 1/1/14

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40W and 60W incandescents to be retired as of 1/1/14

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For your workshop and your dim bulb limiter, stock up now as these won't be sold any more in the US once existing stock runs out. I know it's good to be energy conservationists, but we need lamps that don't hum and filaments that limit current. I'm not sure how many of these to buy, if I can still find them!

Imagine, ads on eBay: NOS 60W Incandescent Bulb, each, BIN $40. Like tubes, brand names like GE and Philips will probably fetch more than the no-name (LOL, Shuguang lamps). I think all of them are made in the same Chinese factory though.
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I wouldn't worry about it. Now that bulb-making jobs in the US have been destroyed, they'll make them overseas, and you'll probably find them on Ebay. They already make them in China. The government doesn't do a great job of policing this stuff. Incandescent bulbs will probably be like Cuban cigars, which are very easy to get.
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I'm not worried as long as I can get 25-60W candelabra-type bulbs. I don't see those going away anytime soon.
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I need real bulbs to be able to see my work.

I have fluorescent shop lighting, but halogen task lights on every machine.

The bandpassed spectrum that other bulbs throw is confusing, and fluorescent bulbs make judging machine speeds difficult by eye.

Its also more fatiguing to work under fluorescent light. I'm sure you lose more productivity than the energy saved.

I've mixed color temps in the fluorescent fixtures, and it sucks less., but the eye is capable of seeing more of the spectrum than these bulbs give off.

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Re: 40W and 60W incandescents to be retired as of 1/1/14

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Cantplay wrote:The bandpassed spectrum that other bulbs throw is confusing, and fluorescent bulbs make judging machine speeds difficult by eye.
Have you tried OttLite? It's a fluro bulb, but wide bandwidth, similar to sunlight, and low flicker. It's my desk/work lamp, and it's awesome.
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Stock up. Here in Italy they've been banned for a few years and the incandescents are almost as rare as NOS tubes. Happened really fast. I didn't set extra aside either. Gonna be ransacking the old folks houses on holidays, or "caro zio" you'd save a lot of euros if you let me replace those crappy old bulbs for you. Or buying ugly cheap lamps at the thrifts just for the gold of the 60W incandescent. Throw out the lamp keep the bulb, funny world.

Fear not for the eyesight thing. Not sure what will happen there but here you can get edison base 220V halogens. They look just like all the various incandescents but have a little halogen bulb inside - globe within a globe. They are green and legal and like 15% more efficient and are allowed. Great light. Will they be allowed there? Building amps with a florescent I'd go blind and mad.

I was going to post about halogens and DBLs, and maybe will on it's own post to draw attention, for now anyone know if these will work in a DBL?
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xtian wrote:
Cantplay wrote:The bandpassed spectrum that other bulbs throw is confusing, and fluorescent bulbs make judging machine speeds difficult by eye.
Have you tried OttLite? It's a fluro bulb, but wide bandwidth, similar to sunlight, and low flicker. It's my desk/work lamp, and it's awesome.
ottlites are great

i have one back in maine i used to tie flies (for fly fishing)

good stuff, now i just use a pixar style lamp with a CFL, but my workstation is under a south facing window...
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These got banned here in Bulgaria as well (as in the whole EU) some time ago.
Now they sell them as special purpose, shock proof bulbs or something. The only difference is they cost the equivalent of about 60 cents, instead of 30 as they used to be.
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I bought a 40-watt desk lamp and stuck an LED in it. The bulb cost twelve bucks, but it should last forever, and it's much brighter than the incandescent the lamp was made for. Also runs cool.
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This stuff drives me crazy. I love when they try to tell you your estimated yearly savings for under lighting your house and I just picture the electrical company CEO laughing and counting money.

I use incandescent in many places and I stocked up on 100 watt ones last year because those are my favorites, but if anyone else has noticed the quality of them has gone to complete crap, the "double life" ones typically last two-three weeks, so I'm already getting low and I want to save my last few boxes for my bulb limiter. Gonna stock up on 60w, but I'm sure I'll have the same problem. Is it just me or when I was a kid didn't incandescent bulbs last for months?

Then remember the whole "these light bulbs will last 7 years" thing? I personally have never found that to be anywhere near the case. I'm lucky to get a year out of the new ones.
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CFLs blow out like crazy. The longevity predictions of the true believers were totally off.
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rp wrote:Fear not for the eyesight thing. Not sure what will happen there but here you can get edison base 220V halogens. They look just like all the various incandescents but have a little halogen bulb inside - globe within a globe. They are green and legal and like 15% more efficient and are allowed. Great light. Will they be allowed there? Building amps with a florescent I'd go blind and mad.
Got a couple 40W "candelabra" lamps this style - halogen inside an outer bulb - a couple years ago at Lowe's - on closeout sale no less. The one I use in the hall entry area's nice & bright & throws a cool stripey pattern on the fixture & wall. It replaced a CFL that BURNED in this fixture Xmas eve 2008, stinking up the house. CFL's - nobody mentions the fire hazard... just mercury. Peeee-yooooo!

Local grocery had a $5 sale on Sylvania LED bulbs last year. I grabbed one to check it out and it's become my favorite for my komputer korner. Bright enough for anything and barely warms up. I notice Home Despot now has multi-paks of LED lamps made by Cree. Cree was first to mass manufacture blue LED's - made a fortune on it before other manufacturers caught up. It's a natural for them to now make "white" LED bulbs.

Bought a bag of new & used 50, 60, 100W bulbs at a church rummage sale for $1 a couple years ago. $1 for the whole bag, @ a dozen. Should keep the light bulb limiter going until I'm too old to care. Some are very old fashioned clear-glass types. I notice there are freshly made (in China of course) "antique" style bulbs in Home Despot & Lowes, selling for a very premium price @ $7-8 each. What a joke.

Less productivity under the flourescents? Just what the USA government wants. Politicans' talk is worth the wind it's printed on. Action is what counts. And the action's been - miserable. Biz as usual.
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The New Steve H wrote:CFLs blow out like crazy. The longevity predictions of the true believers were totally off.
I changed all the lights in my house to CFL bulbs from Ikea years ago. Haven't had a blow out or other problem with any of them. :idea:
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The GE pigtail pieces of shit all did the popping out the side burning thingy here.

South Carolina is exepmpted from the GOVERNMENT BAN ON USEFUL DEVICES. I live next door. I am also exempted. yay
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The New Steve H wrote:CFLs blow out like crazy. The longevity predictions of the true believers were totally off.
You used to be able to buy 130 volt incadescent bulbs that lasted years and years.
I've experienced all kinds of failures with the CFLs .some involving small explosions
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