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Just thought I'd post a couple of (terrible) photos of a new build. This one went out today to a happy camper. It is basically my take on a Rocket/ZWreck/AC30 top boost. Client picked the color scheme.

Tone
Pristine, bell-like cleans to throaty, sonorous low/mids. Absolutely smooth transition to shimmering overdrive and very touch sensitive. Pure AC30 for sure. It will do Brad Paisley to Brian May. FBG stands for Fat Bottomed Girl (cheers to Brian May! \m/), and indeed they do make the rockin' world go round. Get on yer bikes and ride!

Specifications
Polypropylene film cap power supply
Sozo signal caps preamp, 716P output coupling caps
Metal film resistors preamp
5W 100R carbon film screen resistors
PEC pots
310-ish VDC plates, biased to 50R/220uF (about 46mA per tube...smokin!)
1980s NOS Saratov 6N14N-EB EL84M power tubes
JJ Gold Pin 12AX7s V1 and V2
Sovtek 12AX7LPS in V3
Sovtek 5AR4 Rectifier
High/Low voltage select switch

Tubes
I rolled a lot of tubes through the preamp. I had a JJ in V1 and an NOS TungSol 12AY7 in V2 and that was a great combination. With the lower gain 12AY7 in V2, it had more headroom but super sweet low end. However, I just kept coming back to the JJ in V1 and V2. Way more bloom, very bold, super musical chirp at high volume.

Closing argument
Turn up the volume to 1pm and wow, what a musical roar. Definitely that Vox sound...like somebody dropped a piano!

Verdict
Rock! 8)
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Re: New amp

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IT LOOKS TERRIBLE OH MAN START OVER lol

The guts are confusingly confusing. I am not used to anything that looks like that. Wow! Great looker too!

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Look, man, post a bigger and I mean HUGE photo of the guts! Wow! What are those filter caps?

Awesome work.
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Glad to see you're using WIMA MKP-4 DC-link caps in the power supply.
This amp will never need a cap job. That's the way to go!
http://www.wima.de/EN/WIMA_DC_Link_MKP_4.pdf
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I could use a cap job about now... :oops: :lol:
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Sounds awesome! I really like your panels and logo. How was the nameplate in the middle of the front grille made?
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Wow

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Another guy I wish I lived next door too!!!!!!!Awesome build down to every detail Dave!!! :D
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Jokes on me right? I don't see any pictures, crappy or otherwise.

Doh...it's because I wasn't logged in. See 'em now, awesome job Colossal.
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xtian wrote:Look, man, post a bigger and I mean HUGE photo of the guts! Wow! What are those filter caps? Awesome work.
+1 +1

Figures you'd use colossal caps! I'd like to hear a more in dept review of poly caps in the power supply. I'm still not convinced enough to try it. Unfortunately they are expensive and big, you can't just drop them in and you pretty much have to go with it all from the start. I was thinking one day a 5E3 as a fairly economical, reversible test bed. The box ones actually look smaller and easier to fit then Solens.
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I love the amp Dave great job as usual and loose the wimpy caps :)

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Wow, that's a sweet looking build!
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Looks like Mouser will sell you the 150uF @ 600V for only $57.68 !?
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SWEET!

Yes, more info on the poly caps, please?
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Structo wrote:SWEET!

Yes, more info on the poly caps, please?
In my post, higher up-
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Thanks for all of the kind words guys!

@Reeltarded:It's nothing special so don't be misled. It's just a Rocket basically. The caps are just located where they are being used and all grounds for that node are returned to the (-) side of the cap.

@Xtian: Will do.

@Aleksander: Thanks! Yes, I prefer a robust power supply and I don't want to have to worry about an amp coming back in for a cap job.

@Cliff: I don't swing that way, but I'm flattered you'd ask :lol: :oops: :shock:

@Martin: Vanity plate and faceplates are laser engraved (see attached closeup. The grill/valences were cut from aircraft aluminum on a water jet and powder coated. The plate is rear lit and there is a small cavity in the front grill only in which I put an LED array to back-light the logo.

@AmpMike, Koop, Mark, StephenNL: Thanks guys, you are very kind.

@RP: Yes, polypropylene caps are huge for sure and they do require a lot of space in the chassis. I used a 2.5" high chassis and there are millimeters to spare for the reservoir and screen caps. I do like the sound of them. I do think you will notice the difference and for the better. The 5E3 with its flabby PI might benefit from this. These do not make an amp sterile as some naysayers insist. I think this bias might come from guys that are playing old, tired amps and have just forgotten what clarity is.

@ JazzGuitarGimp
Yes, they can be expensive. There is no right or wrong answer, only personal choice: how do you price your time, reputation, and amp's tone and performance? A client is not going to know the difference in caps but they will know the difference in sound. If there is a failure, that could have an unintentional consequence to your reputation as a boutique builder. In the scheme of things, yes, the premium of a film cap will affect the bottom line but I value the return on that investment.

@RP, Structo et al
In regards to film caps in the power supply...
I like them because:

1) They are available in voltage ratings that far exceed those experienced in a typical tube guitar amp. I want to make sure anything that I build has a better chance than any commercially available product of avoiding failure and premature maintenance. I don't want voltage transients at startup to fatigue the caps over time.

2) They are non polarized and have very low ESR. This results in a faster attack and recovery although to my ear this is not a bad thing. This extends the clarity of the low end and that is something I want for my own playing as I like absolute clarity and separation and I play 7 strings with a low B and 6 strings often tuned to Drop-D. Electrolytics can have ill-defined, muddy, low end. When I play a wide interval chord, say 1-5-9-add #11, I want it to sound like somebody hit a wrought iron fence with a bat. Grrrr....runngggg...gggggg

3) Precision for a film cap is typically 5-10% compared to an electrolytic which is often -10% to +50% of nominal. When I buy a 40uF cap, I don't want it measuring 52uF. I value precision and select parts accordingly. If I build the same amp twice with the same parts throughout, I want them to sound as close as possible.

4) As Aleksander mentioned, these are not going to wear out any time soon. The up front cost is higher, but the peace of mind and performance that brings is worth the premium to me. YMMV.

5) We have seen some electrolytics take a dive in quality. Look at the current issue ATOM caps. Big can, tiny tootsie roll of a cap inside. Also, there has been some counterfeiting or putting a 20uF cap in a 40uF enclosure (!) which may or may not be a big deal any more. I prefer to avoid electrolytics any where I can for their lower resolution. That said, I used some Sprague ATOM 22uF 25V caps in the preamp for cathode bypass.

Just some thoughts,
Dave
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