Transformer fairy left me a gift..

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Transformer fairy left me a gift..

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The other day I'm out at lunch with my bud/coworker and his boss, none other than Pete Millett. When I first heard he'd be working under Pete last year (we're returning coops this year), I made him ask his boss "so are you that tube guy?", and he was. My bud didn't have a lot in common with Pete but I was almost star struck and asked more than my fair share of questions about his stuff as well as his ideologies and methodologies for designing, building and testing amps.

Anywho so we got talking about his 829B amps the other day at lunch and how well they performed compared to a standard 6L6 setup. I'd just picked up 6 NOS examples of the military version (3E29) for super cheap (I felt like I was stealing them at $1 a pop) and wanted to use them in some sort of push pull pair configuration for a compact 100W amp. So I casually ask Pete if he has any extra iron laying around that he'd be willing to sell. He sits back, thinks on this for a second and mentions some custom transformers he'd had wound in Holland by a company named Wijdeven. These transformers were supposed to be wound for a clean 100W (i.e. 20Hz to 20kHz @ 100W). I said I'm interested and asked how much, to which he countered with "I'll just give you the damn things, I'll never use em..". I tried to offer him money but he insisted that they be gifts.. Very nice of him.

Two days later after work my friend picks me up from work and sitting in his backseat is a box with two big silver-end-belled transformers. The build quality on these things is amazing, they are short and fat in the lamination stack compared to the typical Marshall tall and skinnier lamination stack. I didn't think they looked like 100W transformers but the weight sure was there! Quite the gift from a really cool guy!

I guess the only "catch" to my using these is that I setup my HP 8903B and use Pete's scripts to run some FFT's on the amps I've been building, something I've been meaning to do anyways. Once I build my Vibroverb, 2203 and 5F6A in the fall I will definitely be doing said analysis as well as some small write-ups that I plan on posting here for you guys to consume (much as Andy has done with his G2 findings, but with more pics :P). It's time that the lack of more in-depth analysis on guitar amps becomes a thing of the past! We will get past the mojo and get down to the science, even if it kills me (hopefully not by shock)!
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Way to go Cliff! I look forward to seeing the results.
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Sorry, double post.
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pete millet boner.
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I think you meant "broner". :lol:


If anybody else would like to get in on the amp characterizing/testing action I'm a few months away from getting started on this but would like to compare data with others. Anybody have or have access to an audio frequency network analyzer? We can start characterizing more than just whole amps, we can compare the differences between resistors, caps, transformers, chokes and other passives with a good network analyzer..
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i really need to build me that tube bench power supply he has.
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That's so cool! What a nice gift and what a nice guy too!
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Maybe I can get him to put some guitar amp info on his hifi site. :twisted:
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That 829B is a rare bird indeed. How do you connect the plates? Special socket too. That's a lot of work!

Is the tone that much better than a 6L6? This is an audio not MI application, right?
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Sorry, double post.
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Anybody have or have access to an audio frequency network analyzer?
Yes, I just got an HP3577B network analyzer on the cheap. 5Hz - 200MHz. I would like to make some measurements on some whole amps. Finding the time will be a challenge.
We can start characterizing more than just whole amps, we can compare the differences between resistors, caps, transformers, chokes and other passives with a good network analyzer..
I don't think I have the time or inclination to go down the road of proving or disproving the differences between components. It may be interesting for me personally, but publishing results that disagree with the beliefs that some people hold onto so dearly is not a road I want to travel.

I guess I have one foot in and one foot out.
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That's cool Cliff!

The old tube guys are quickly fading into the sunset, all that wisdom/ knowledge will soon be gone, other than what they publish.

It would be so cool to mentor under one of the Amp Guru's watchful tutoring.
Tom

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