Conjunctive Filter Switch Q

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Conjunctive Filter Switch Q

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I want to put one on my HO amp to see if it will smooth out the gain a bit. Its cheap, two components, so I'm going to go for it. For the cap:

http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Vis ... CPHiABA%3d

I'll put a 5W resistor in series with it.

Here's my question, if I want to put it on a switch, (already have a hole in my chassis) what Amp rating do I need for this? Is a 10A 250V switch acceptable? The reason I ask is the B supply to the OT is 257V on one side and 259V on the other, so is it more the Amp rating that I should worry about? I can't imagine this switch not being enough, maybe overkill?

http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Car ... xXNuBgg%3d

Also it doesn't say how long the toggle is and there's three in the pic. How do I know how long the toggle is? I don't want a pool cue hanging off my amp :shock:
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Re: Conjunctive Filter Switch Q

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surfsup wrote:I want to put one on my HO amp to see if it will smooth out the gain a bit. Its cheap, two components, so I'm going to go for it. For the cap:

http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Vis ... CPHiABA%3d

I'll put a 5W resistor in series with it.

Here's my question, if I want to put it on a switch, (already have a hole in my chassis) what Amp rating do I need for this? Is a 10A 250V switch acceptable? The reason I ask is the B supply to the OT is 257V on one side and 259V on the other, so is it more the Amp rating that I should worry about? I can't imagine this switch not being enough, maybe overkill?

http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Car ... xXNuBgg%3d

Also it doesn't say how long the toggle is and there's three in the pic. How do I know how long the toggle is? I don't want a pool cue hanging off my amp :shock:
Put the switch on the backside on the cap and resistor, that switch will be fine. I like using a 10-12W tubular power resistor for these type of filters.

You could always try looking at the data sheet for the switch. :lol:

TM
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Re: Conjunctive Filter Switch Q

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surfsup wrote:I want to put one on my HO amp to see if it will smooth out the gain a bit. Its cheap, two components, so I'm going to go for it. For the cap:
Here's my question, if I want to put it on a switch, (already have a hole in my chassis) what Amp rating do I need for this? Is a 10A 250V switch acceptable?
So, we are talking about a series RC from SE power output tube plate to ground, right? My 6550 SE amp is running a similar circuit topology to an HO. If I remember, my RC sets a high frequency cut around 7 kHz with a 5K and 0.0047uF.

Given that the highest fundamental frequency on a guitar is 24th fret high e string = 660 Hz, all of the energy in the 5-7kHz range is due to overtones or harmonics. There is not a lot of musical energy at these frequencies and consequently not a lot of current flowing through your conjunctive filter.

Assume you set a filter at 7000 Hz with the above component values. At the corner frequency, the cap impedance equals the series resistor value, so string is 5K + 5K = 10K Ohms. If you measure the RMS voltage swing at the power tube plate, you can calculate how many amps (RMS) are flowing through the filter.

So, for example, I measure 60VAC RMS swing at power tube plate --> current flowing through RC filter = 60/10K < 6mA worst case (because all the music energy in guitar could not possibly be at 7kHz). Remember, the conjunctive filter doesn't pass any bias current. It has current flow only when there is AC signal.

cheers,

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Re: Conjunctive Filter Switch Q

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"put it on the backside"

What does that mean? I was just going to put it on a terminal strip.

I was going to use 0.015uF per the link. The math is:

f=1/(6.28*C*R)
f=1*1000000/(6.26*0.015*5000)
f=2kHz

Maybe i should bring that a bit higher...

I admit i didnt know it was seeing only AC and still dont understand it fully. I'll do some more research on that.
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Re: Conjunctive Filter Switch Q

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surfsup wrote:"put it on the backside"
cap>resistor>switch or you could just put the switch in the middle
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Re: Conjunctive Filter Switch Q

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I figured out later you must have meant the order. Thanks for the note.
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