A little tubbey
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Re: A little tubbey
Gun blue it.
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Andy Le Blanc
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Re: A little tubbey
just hit it up with plastikote... bluing it is a great Idea
the kits look simple... just saw something on hot bluing
It be under foot you know how guitar players get, chewspit, bongwater, dog turds and beer.
the kits look simple... just saw something on hot bluing
It be under foot you know how guitar players get, chewspit, bongwater, dog turds and beer.
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Andy Le Blanc
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Re: A little tubbey
not immediately happy with the spray finish either, a dip would simple, but its at tube amp and you need to preserve the ground points on the chassis
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Andy Le Blanc
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Re: A little tubbey
had to rig a fan in the shop window and put it under a heat light to flash off.
got an ice storm going on, surprised the power is still on.
got an ice storm going on, surprised the power is still on.
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Andy Le Blanc
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Re: A little tubbey
Ice storm and power outages, still made some progress.
I also had the chance to noodle a bit with a bridge rectifier, it gave me nearly exactly 100v no load.
The real challenge is simply making sure the components all fit in the end.
Compact electronic designs in the pre-transistor era where simple out of pure necessity.
It's already just over 3Lbs... and it's just a 1 tube project.
I also had the chance to noodle a bit with a bridge rectifier, it gave me nearly exactly 100v no load.
The real challenge is simply making sure the components all fit in the end.
Compact electronic designs in the pre-transistor era where simple out of pure necessity.
It's already just over 3Lbs... and it's just a 1 tube project.
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Andy Le Blanc
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Re: A little tubbey
Managed to get out yesterday and find some light bulbs at the hardware store,
Yes, you can still find radio light bulbs in New England at a hardware store.
Over to Aubuchon, and some of the TrueValues... and some of the old farmers unions...
Simple things, turn it on and it lights up, hit the stomp and the lights change.
Yes, you can still find radio light bulbs in New England at a hardware store.
Over to Aubuchon, and some of the TrueValues... and some of the old farmers unions...
Simple things, turn it on and it lights up, hit the stomp and the lights change.
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Andy Le Blanc
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Re: A little tubbey
Got around to finishing the circuit the evening, works good so far, I still have to finish the case and fiddle-n-tweak.
hum isn't bad, surprised actually, still gonna invest time and see I can't get it as quiet as possible.
So far its a fuzz/boost, you can adjust the clip and output gain... I'll probably tweak for more output volume.
The plate voltage ended up around 160V, I went with a bridge rectifier.
Puts things close enough around the 180v chart for the tube.
GE sheet says I can get a gain of 16 and 35v signal out, but so far it sounds
like its just adequate to hard clip and and still have a boost over the input signal.
I other words just enough for what you would need out of a fuzz box.
hum isn't bad, surprised actually, still gonna invest time and see I can't get it as quiet as possible.
So far its a fuzz/boost, you can adjust the clip and output gain... I'll probably tweak for more output volume.
The plate voltage ended up around 160V, I went with a bridge rectifier.
Puts things close enough around the 180v chart for the tube.
GE sheet says I can get a gain of 16 and 35v signal out, but so far it sounds
like its just adequate to hard clip and and still have a boost over the input signal.
I other words just enough for what you would need out of a fuzz box.
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Andy Le Blanc
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Re: A little tubbey
With a .5v signal the measured output under full clip is 5.5v
1khz
apologizes for the shaky pict.
1khz
apologizes for the shaky pict.
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Re: A little tubbey
Looks so cool!!
Can we get a better schematic?
Tony
Can we get a better schematic?
Tony
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Andy Le Blanc
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Andy Le Blanc
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Re: A little tubbey
6c4 data sheet...
There's a little RC amp chart on page 2.
Take a look at the bottom of the chart where Rk is "0".
There's a little RC amp chart on page 2.
Take a look at the bottom of the chart where Rk is "0".
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Andy Le Blanc
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Re: A little tubbey
quick scheme... stupid simple
I'm intending to change the plate resistor to 470k, and the pot. at the output to 2m.
The best thing about such simple circuits is that you can easily fiddle with it and get it to taste.
The only critical values are the first to resistors, the 2.2m because of the bypass type.
You need a high impedance so the circuit won't bog down the rest of what ever signal path your using.
And you want it to keep the bypass switch from popping too badly.
And the 10m is the grid leak for the zero bias set up... I know you could vary the value but you really want a very high value there... 3m and up
beauty about grid leak, or zero bias, is that it can make point to point wiring very simple, right on the socket with very few lugs on a terminal strip or a few eyelets.
same deal as a fuzz... whatever diodes to preference
I'm intending to change the plate resistor to 470k, and the pot. at the output to 2m.
The best thing about such simple circuits is that you can easily fiddle with it and get it to taste.
The only critical values are the first to resistors, the 2.2m because of the bypass type.
You need a high impedance so the circuit won't bog down the rest of what ever signal path your using.
And you want it to keep the bypass switch from popping too badly.
And the 10m is the grid leak for the zero bias set up... I know you could vary the value but you really want a very high value there... 3m and up
beauty about grid leak, or zero bias, is that it can make point to point wiring very simple, right on the socket with very few lugs on a terminal strip or a few eyelets.
same deal as a fuzz... whatever diodes to preference
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Andy Le Blanc
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Re: A little tubbey
Power supply is just as simple, I ended up using a bridge... the other side of the dpdt bypass switch switches the lights, funny...
The back to back 12v transformers works well, done that for several little thing so far, drops the cost and is very easy.
The back to back 12v transformers works well, done that for several little thing so far, drops the cost and is very easy.
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Re: A little tubbey
Thanks for posting this, Andy... You know I've gotta try this!
Tony
Tony
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