W/D/W Using The FX-Loop Vs. A "Line Out Box"?

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Re: W/D/W Using The FX-Loop Vs. A "Line Out Box"?

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DarthTangYang wrote: Sun Feb 19, 2023 10:21 pm Damn, what's wrong with this guy? He's got some serious issues :shock:
Reeltarded has spent tons of time on this forum helping people understand things... I don't think you're paying attention to what he's saying and dismissing him. This might be why he's no longer paying attention to you.

You're a new forum member with a couple dozen posts acting as if someone that's been here for 14 years and has almost 10k posts like they're confused...

Forum etiquette may be new to you, but generally people answering your questions, spending time putting up videos etc, aren't trying to waste your time, but inform you. Seems like you're trying to waste his?

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Re: W/D/W Using The FX-Loop Vs. A "Line Out Box"?

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pompeiisneaks wrote: Tue Feb 21, 2023 8:28 pm
DarthTangYang wrote: Sun Feb 19, 2023 10:21 pm Damn, what's wrong with this guy? He's got some serious issues :shock:
Reeltarded has spent tons of time on this forum helping people understand things... I don't think you're paying attention to what he's saying and dismissing him. This might be why he's no longer paying attention to you.

You're a new forum member with a couple dozen posts acting as if someone that's been here for 14 years and has almost 10k posts like they're confused...

Forum etiquette may be new to you, but generally people answering your questions, spending time putting up videos etc, aren't trying to waste your time, but inform you. Seems like you're trying to waste his?

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I'm not trying to waste anyone's time, I'm simply trying to understand and reach the best way to move forward. Reeltarded is not the only forum member commenting on my posts and I'm trying to navigate all that information to the best of my ability. Often people who have been doing this for a long time tend to talk about it, using terms and names of devices they think should be common knowledge when they're not. They're not to me anyway.

The very first thing he wrote, answering my very first post he opened with telling me how much he hates W/D/W and proceeded with suggesting I do something different, something more in line with his own stereo rig. Now, why would I feel that this is the most reliable person to take advice from? Would you feel positively about someone who approaches your questions that way? I think not.

He posted a video of a stereo rig with a Rockcrusher Load Box and I questioned why I would need such a device to which he proceeded by saying he's "done" and then blocked me. And you don't think that's a childish way to respond? "Oh, you don't swallow my suggestions blindly, oh well then - BLOCKED". I would never block anyone if they didn't harass me in some way. I have never written to him personally. He answered my posts.
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Re: W/D/W Using The FX-Loop Vs. A "Line Out Box"?

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DarthTangYang wrote: Wed Feb 22, 2023 8:41 am
pompeiisneaks wrote: Tue Feb 21, 2023 8:28 pm
DarthTangYang wrote: Sun Feb 19, 2023 10:21 pm Damn, what's wrong with this guy? He's got some serious issues :shock:
Reeltarded has spent tons of time on this forum helping people understand things... I don't think you're paying attention to what he's saying and dismissing him. This might be why he's no longer paying attention to you.

You're a new forum member with a couple dozen posts acting as if someone that's been here for 14 years and has almost 10k posts like they're confused...

Forum etiquette may be new to you, but generally people answering your questions, spending time putting up videos etc, aren't trying to waste your time, but inform you. Seems like you're trying to waste his?

~Phil
I'm not trying to waste anyone's time, I'm simply trying to understand and reach the best way to move forward. Reeltarded is not the only forum member commenting on my posts and I'm trying to navigate all that information to the best of my ability. Often people who have been doing this for a long time tend to talk about it, using terms and names of devices they think should be common knowledge when they're not. They're not to me anyway.

The very first thing he wrote, answering my very first post he opened with telling me how much he hates W/D/W and proceeded with suggesting I do something different, something more in line with his own stereo rig. Now, why would I feel that this is the most reliable person to take advice from? Would you feel positively about someone who approaches your questions that way? I think not.

He posted a video of a stereo rig with a Rockcrusher Load Box and I questioned why I would need such a device to which he proceeded by saying he's "done" and then blocked me. And you don't think that's a childish way to respond? "Oh, you don't swallow my suggestions blindly, oh well then - BLOCKED". I would never block anyone if they didn't harass me in some way. I have never written to him personally. He answered my posts.
I don't know, if I was new to something and had an idea that I thought would work, and someone that's been doing just that kind of thing for 20-30 years tells me 'they don't work well' I'd wager they probably have a reason for that. I think I also followed on this thread several other people suggesting that they don't work well either and you could try other options to get what you may really like.

He's posted multiple replies to this thread and you picked apart every reply like he's clueless to what you want, and he's the one that doesn't understand your request. I think everyone knows what a wet/dry/wet rig is here. I've personally never used one, so I can't comment and haven't. As the forum admin OTOH I do try to follow along and step in to avoid flame wars or insults getting too deep. I haven't see it yet here, I'm just informing you that you seem to feel like nobody's listening to you, but from a third persons perspective I feel like you're ignoring a lot of good advice. That's your prerogative. Reeltarded also has a great sense of quirky comedy and that may be his silly way of saying "peace out".

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pompeiisneaks wrote: Wed Feb 22, 2023 6:45 pm Reeltarded also has a great sense of quirky comedy and that may be his silly way of saying "peace out".
"sense of quirky comedy"? Understatement of the year! :lol: Dude's a riot. OP - Stick around long enough, and you'll see. I've had my feathers ruffled a time or two, as well. Trust me, it's few and far between here. Definitely a good group of folks.
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Re: W/D/W Using The FX-Loop Vs. A "Line Out Box"?

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pompeiisneaks wrote: Wed Feb 22, 2023 6:45 pm
I don't know, if I was new to something and had an idea that I thought would work, and someone that's been doing just that kind of thing for 20-30 years tells me 'they don't work well' I'd wager they probably have a reason for that. I think I also followed on this thread several other people suggesting that they don't work well either and you could try other options to get what you may really like.

He's posted multiple replies to this thread and you picked apart every reply like he's clueless to what you want, and he's the one that doesn't understand your request. I think everyone knows what a wet/dry/wet rig is here. I've personally never used one, so I can't comment and haven't. As the forum admin OTOH I do try to follow along and step in to avoid flame wars or insults getting too deep. I haven't see it yet here, I'm just informing you that you seem to feel like nobody's listening to you, but from a third persons perspective I feel like you're ignoring a lot of good advice. That's your prerogative. Reeltarded also has a great sense of quirky comedy and that may be his silly way of saying "peace out".

~Phil
I literally have no idea of what you're referring to when you say I "picked apart every reply like he's clueless to what you want". I can't really see where I've been disrespectful or anything like that. If anything, I haven't fully understood everything he's been talking about, most likely due to the fact that he's talkig about a different type of rig than what I'm looking for.

All I've been doing is trying to piece together what I've managed to gather from many people, from several online forums, with people who have all been building these kinds of advanced signal routing rigs for many years. And they don't all say the same thing. I guess it's just like with anything else - people simply have different opinions on what's the best approach, as well as having different opinions on what sounds best. But there are plenty of people who use and have been using W/D/W rigs for a long time and they swear by them. Reeltarded seem to be of the opinion that it's a waste of time, that a stereo rig is a much better idea, which is perfectly fine, but why then enter into a discussion about W/D/W? Of course he's going to feel like he's not being listened to. I've already decided that I'm building a W/D/W rig. I have 3 amps and 3 speaker cabs which I now want to connect and I have no plans to build just a stereo rig, and I obviously didn't post anything asking for how to build a stereo rig either. So, when you haven't spent the past 20-30 years doing this and you run into conflicting statements and even some people who seem to think that you should do something different than what you plan to do, then you have to try and read between the lines, try to discern which approach is right for you. Where to split the signals, what you need to think about when doing it that way, which device is the best, most affordable etc. etc. And when lots of people write answers, with their own thoughts and ideas it's easy to get a bit lost trying to piece together how this advice is applicable to your situation.

Now, none of this matters because Reeltarded has left the discussion, he's even blocked me for some reason and... well, since he's not really interested in the type of rig I'm interested in it doesn't really matter. I just don't understand why this was his reaction. He could have simply refrained from writing anything more. His reaction was more akin to a teenager throwing a bit of a fit, running out slamming the door behind him. And then he apparently blocked me. I don't even know because I've never written a PM to him, not before or after this incident so, I simply don't know. And to be honest I sure don't have any interest in finding out either.

All I'm interested in is finding a solution to the type of rig I'm building. And right now that means finding a Line Mixer that can take at least 3 wet stereo pedals and mix in my dry signal, preferably using a pedal if possible. If Reeltarded or anyone else feel they can help with some advice regarding this then I would appreciate it. Any suggestions regarding different kinds of rigs are better left in threads pertaining to those kinds of rigs.
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