Power transformer 2ndary voltage
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- JoshBernstein
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Power transformer 2ndary voltage
I previously started a thread about my interest in kt66's. Ive built most of the amp i was planning to build, with a matchless ish ef86 preamp and a cathode biased pair of kt66's. All thats really left to buy is a power transformer. My question is, what should the 2ndary voltage be? Im looking to end up with between 400 and 425 volts on the plates using a 5ar4 rectifier. Thanks!
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Re: Power transformer 2ndary voltage
There are a variety of things that might affect loaded secondary voltage, so I suggest going with the rule of thumb for the 5AR4, which is 1.3x secondary voltage. To backsolve the problem:
400/1.3 = 308
425/1.3 = 327
I'd allow 4-5% for the loading factor (loaded vs. unloaded).
308*.95 = 292
327*.95 = 311
If this was mine, I'd go for something close to 300-0-300, maybe a bit higher, but not as high as 325-0-325.
400/1.3 = 308
425/1.3 = 327
I'd allow 4-5% for the loading factor (loaded vs. unloaded).
308*.95 = 292
327*.95 = 311
If this was mine, I'd go for something close to 300-0-300, maybe a bit higher, but not as high as 325-0-325.
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Re: Power transformer 2ndary voltage
I was thinking around 300-0-300, but wasnt sure if that would be too low, but ill give it a go and see what happens. Thank you, it's greatly appreciated
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Re: Power transformer 2ndary voltage
IHMO; 300-0-300 would be too low for your target range, even in fixed bias. I would start in the 335-350 range, dependent upon the chosen secondary HT rating and typical mains line voltage.JoshBernstein wrote:I was thinking around 300-0-300, but wasnt sure if that would be too low, but ill give it a go and see what happens. Thank you, it's greatly appreciated
TM
Re: Power transformer 2ndary voltage
Shows that rule of thumb needs adjustment: http://www.mif.pg.gda.pl/homepages/fran ... 5/5AR4.pdf
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I have just recently used the Mojotone JTM high power PT in a 66 Bassman, you might check that one out?
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Re: Power transformer 2ndary voltage
Well the jtm45 transformers ive found are typically 345-0-345. Will this be okay? Im not too worried about going over my range, just that area would be ideal for me. Thanks again
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Re: Power transformer 2ndary voltage
A 5F6A PT - around 325-0-325 (loaded) @200mA, with a good 4A on the heater winding (Each KT66 filament uses 1.3A), with 3A for the rectifier winding should be fine for a pair of KT66 in fixed bias
If you're going to run KT66s in cathode bias, you might want to go higher VAC on the HT winding (say 350-0-350) if you're aiming for 400 on the plates.
If you're going to run KT66s in cathode bias, you might want to go higher VAC on the HT winding (say 350-0-350) if you're aiming for 400 on the plates.
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Re: Power transformer 2ndary voltage
I would use it for cathode bias, in addition you could always drop voltage even further if you wished by using a 5U4G. Whereas, if you choose too low of a secondary voltage you can't increase it.JoshBernstein wrote:Well the jtm45 transformers ive found are typically 345-0-345. Will this be okay? Im not too worried about going over my range, just that area would be ideal for me. Thanks again
TM
Re: Power transformer 2ndary voltage
This is the problem with almost everything said about tube rectifiers: that they will drop such and such a voltage. Under what conditions? If you look hard enough, you will find voltage data for half load versus full load and have to do the math in between. Amplifiers are dynamic.
Re: Power transformer 2ndary voltage
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