SE output transformers
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SE output transformers
Have you guys ever heard of a single-ended output transformer's so-called "tuning" being spoiled by the addition of end bells? Not taking into account the size and mounting arrangement (2-hole A-frame vs. 4-hole), some SE OTs such as those made by Edcor and Heyboer have them, and others do not. Ignore cost as an issue. I am trying to discern the technical reasoning behind such a statement.
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Oh, absolutely. The addition of end bells totally screws it up. It's much better to pay a higher price for a specially wound OT without the end bells (translation, let's charge more for a transformer that costs less to produce but advertise it with magic pixie dust).
In all seriousness, lol, like I have ever been serious, I suppose it is possible that end bells *might* alter the flux lines a bit. But, I sure wouldn't worry about it.
Now if we were discussing wire color, that is another matter altogether.
In all seriousness, lol, like I have ever been serious, I suppose it is possible that end bells *might* alter the flux lines a bit. But, I sure wouldn't worry about it.
Now if we were discussing wire color, that is another matter altogether.
What?
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Haha, awesome Jana. I won't hold you to a lapse in your usual seriousness.Jana wrote:Oh, absolutely. The addition of end bells totally screws it up. It's much better to pay a higher price for a specially wound OT without the end bells (translation, let's charge more for a transformer that costs less to produce but advertise it with magic pixie dust).
In all seriousness, lol, like I have ever been serious, I suppose it is possible that end bells *might* alter the flux lines a bit. But, I sure wouldn't worry about it.
Now if we were discussing wire color, that is another matter altogether.
Yeah, the only case I could possibly make for not using end bells is that the field lines are perturbed and we mustn't perturb the flux. What the flux?
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Somebody's got a lot of bells to suggest such a phenomenon exists.
I think they got bells in their batfry, a lotta free time & too much caffeine.
Now wire color, that's another thing. Everybody knows electrons prefer yellow.
I think they got bells in their batfry, a lotta free time & too much caffeine.
Now wire color, that's another thing. Everybody knows electrons prefer yellow.
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Put a flux capacitor under the end bell.
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You guys...
Phil, if we put a flux capacitor under the bell, we will shunt all highs to the adjacent universe and things would be very dull and uninspiring tonally. The ultimate Zobel filter
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I've never heard of this phenomenon, but I'm sure the issue is alive and well on valve/tube hifi websites.Colossal wrote: Have you guys ever heard of a single-ended output transformer's so-called "tuning" being spoiled by the addition of end bells?
Disclosure: I prefer the dark tone of black plastic insulation - especially for heater wiring.
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Flatulent topologies stink. I think the dentist said I had fluxorrhea.
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For top performance a transformer must be gold plated.
The leads from the transformer must be made of silver.
A large decal on the transformer states "Demmacs Tech"
Even spelled backwards it is impressive.
Gold doesn't tarnish so the transformer could, theoretically last 1,000 years.
The price to be determined.
The leads from the transformer must be made of silver.
A large decal on the transformer states "Demmacs Tech"
Even spelled backwards it is impressive.
Gold doesn't tarnish so the transformer could, theoretically last 1,000 years.
The price to be determined.
Tom
Don't let that smoke out!
Don't let that smoke out!
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Good point. I'm surprised we haven't yet seen extra metal bits spot welded onto the bells similar to heat-sink "wings" added to output tube plates, to make them, uh, more aerodynamic I guess, and able to dispense heat via noise-making like on a jester's hat.matt h wrote:End-bells can be viewed as stealth-ringage-harvesters, pooling the transformers ringing outwardly through the flux-dump, also known as fluxorrhea.
darryl_h it's perfectly OK to use dark insulations on filament wires as they're really concerned with no more than 60 Hz; bandwidth beyond that is wasted.
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