Pignose G40V spontaneous meltdown

[tothemoonn]

Hey, sorry to be that guy, but someone's gotta say it: Playing or working on this amp without a grounded chassis is foolish. I just want you to live to see 2016!

I certainly don't like it, but there's no option other than plugging to one of a few GFCIs. I rent, and I'm in a city that is very on top of code enforcement, so it's really not my right to go around doing unlicensed electrical work in a duplex I dont own. Anything happens that can be remotely tied to my tinkering and the insurance goes out the window. I don't find it that difficult to exercise due caution in discharging things before touching them. I also work in a lab environment where being meticulous and excessively cautious is just part of the job.

[martin manning]

If you have something that's grounded nearby, like a cold water pipe or a radiator, you could run a ground wire from the adapter to that. It'd buy you some safety margin and maybe lower noise.

[tothemoonn]

If you have something that's grounded nearby, like a cold water pipe or a radiator, you could run a ground wire from the adapter to that. It'd buy you some safety margin and maybe lower noise.

I might be able to work something like that out if I'm in the basement. I'll at least be doing all the repairs in the basement. Thanks for the idea.

[Leo_Gnardo]

I certainly don't like it, but there's no option other than plugging to one of a few GFCIs. I rent, and I'm in a city that is very on top of code enforcement, so it's really not my right to go around doing unlicensed electrical work in a duplex I dont own. Anything happens that can be remotely tied to my tinkering and the insurance goes out the window. I don't find it that difficult to exercise due caution in discharging things before touching them. I also work in a lab environment where being meticulous and excessively cautious is just part of the job.

Then you're stuck running off your GFI outlets. Oh well, better than nothing. And if they are set up to code you should have the advantage of a safe shock-free life, what's better than that?

[Gaz]

Hey, sorry to be that guy, but someone's gotta say it: Playing or working on this amp without a grounded chassis is foolish. I just want you to live to see 2016!

I certainly don't like it, but there's no option other than plugging to one of a few GFCIs. I rent, and I'm in a city that is very on top of code enforcement, so it's really not my right to go around doing unlicensed electrical work in a duplex I dont own. Anything happens that can be remotely tied to my tinkering and the insurance goes out the window. I don't find it that difficult to exercise due caution in discharging things before touching them. I also work in a lab environment where being meticulous and excessively cautious is just part of the job.

Sorry, didn't mean to derail your thread there, just wanted to make you extra paranoid and cautious f you weren't already. Sounds like you are being careful as possible, and those trick outlets will come in handy if you body ever becomes a ground wire.

[tothemoonn]

Hey, sorry to be that guy, but someone's gotta say it: Playing or working on this amp without a grounded chassis is foolish. I just want you to live to see 2016!

I certainly don't like it, but there's no option other than plugging to one of a few GFCIs. I rent, and I'm in a city that is very on top of code enforcement, so it's really not my right to go around doing unlicensed electrical work in a duplex I dont own. Anything happens that can be remotely tied to my tinkering and the insurance goes out the window. I don't find it that difficult to exercise due caution in discharging things before touching them. I also work in a lab environment where being meticulous and excessively cautious is just part of the job.

Sorry, didn't mean to derail your thread there, just wanted to make you extra paranoid and cautious f you weren't already. Sounds like you are being careful as possible, and those trick outlets will come in handy if you body ever becomes a ground wire.

No worries. This stupid outlet situation is one of the many reasons I cant wait to stop renting!

[JMFahey]

Just as a side note: the landlord/owner is the one who must obey City Law.

First kindly ask him to update house wiring, out of his pocket of course.

If he sharply denies it several times, then you go straight to whatever City office handles that.

Which unless the landlord is a total moron won't happen, if he has at least a few neurons left, he knows he'll have to do that sooner or later.

And he is responsible for your safety.

Of course, ask it with a big grin , no need to argue over that.

[Leo_Gnardo]

Just as a side note: the landlord/owner is the one who must obey City Law. First kindly ask him to update house wiring, out of his pocket of course. If he sharply denies it several times, then you go straight to whatever City office handles that. Which unless the landlord is a total moron won't happen, if he has at least a few neurons left, he knows he'll have to do that sooner or later. And he is responsible for your safety. Of course, ask it with a big grin , no need to argue over that.

We've got lots of negligent landlords here in the USA Juan. Some of 'em, if you called city authorities on 'em, could set off a very bad situation for the complainer. Like deadly, no foolin'. It's cheaper to hire a hit man than to bring a building up to spec.

The laws in NY state may specify annual inspections for rental properties, but the laws are far from being enforced. Downtown in my municipality for instance, one of the 3-story bricks collapsed just over 2 years ago. Happens to be next door to another 3-brick owned by the Mayor. The landlord had been foot-dragging on required inspections for years but "authorities" would never think of levying fines or removing the Certificate of Occupancy, kicking out the tenants, or do any other action to convince the landlord to cooperate with an inspector. Since then there's been a lot of smoke and hoss poop coming from the gov't committees, but they still haven't been able to inspect many more properties just like the one that collapsed. Inspectors can't force their way into a building, must have permission to enter, which curiously they never get. Most of the landlords are "absentee" living anywhere from 50 to 5000 miles away. Their excuse is they want to be there when the inspection takes place but somehow they never can set an appointment. It's just too inconvenient. And the circus continues.

I'm sure when tothemoon gets his own house, top on the list will be a proper electrical system.

[tothemoonn]

Just as a side note: the landlord/owner is the one who must obey City Law.

First kindly ask him to update house wiring, out of his pocket of course.

If he sharply denies it several times, then you go straight to whatever City office handles that.

Which unless the landlord is a total moron won't happen, if he has at least a few neurons left, he knows he'll have to do that sooner or later.

And he is responsible for your safety.

Of course, ask it with a big grin , no need to argue over that.

I wish that were the case, but unfortunately code doesn't require grounded outlets in my city. According to city code all that's required are GFCI outlets for any outlets near a sink, tub, or in a basement, but they do not need a true earth ground.