"Pushed" BF Fender tone

[Gaz]

Hey, I was initially missing the replies to the thread, but thanks a lot for the ideas!

Thing is I really don't like PI overdrive too much in big Fender amps, but I do like the clean EQ profile of the BF Fender tonestack, and would like to just add a little hair to it. I grew up on 800s, so I think that PPIMV tone just always sounds so fizzy and unrefined in comparison, especially

I will try the 3 stage clean, and play with that bottom leg of the divider on the 10p/3M3 high pass.

You know one really good example of this sound I'm thinking of is the clean channel of a Mesa Rectifier in "Vintage" mode or whatever. It takes it from really scooped and sterile to nice and gritty. Of course I cannot find a schem of the clean channel anywhere!

[Gaz]

Nevermind just found the 3-channel schem for the Recto! Looks like it's a 3 stage clean with some switches to bypass the top of the divider for the 3rd stage, add a .002uF in parallel with the 250pF treble cap, and one other little filter just before the master.

[Stevem]

If you play around you will likely find that you do not want anything larger than a .033 uf caps feeding the grid of the output tubes in regards to good bass response when cranked with little grid bias problems when the amp is cranked!