Which diagram are you referencing? visualize which ever one you are referring to and add or subtract the ohm load depending on how it's wired that should answer your question. If you can't understand it by looking mock it up with alligator clips until you can achive the desired result you are looking for.
Most switches make contact opposite the direction they are switched.
Again..
If you have doubt physically hold the switch so you are looking at the lugs and test is with continuity.
I test each and every component before I begin to solder. I'd rather have a fault out of circuit then after I've soldered. It makes troubleshooting in the event something isn't right fast and easy.
4x12 with 4 different speakers?
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Re: 4x12 with 4 different speakers?
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Re: 4x12 with 4 different speakers?
5 pages and about 60 responses. I applaud the willingness and patience of AG members to help others. I think this one sets some kind of record. 
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Re: 4x12 with 4 different speakers?
...or maybe the only thing that sets a record is my ignorance? 
I'll try to wire it as soon as I get some time on my hands.
Thanks everybody for your input!
I'll try to wire it as soon as I get some time on my hands.
Thanks everybody for your input!
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ettepostkonto
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Re: 4x12 with 4 different speakers?
OK - so now it's all soldered and I can't believe I got it right the first time! 
It't looks like shit - I've learnt not to use fat cables like these George L's with the small switches I got for next time - but it works!
Tested it carefully with my multimeter and then with my small practice amp that I have in the apartment, a VOX VT15 which I don't mind if it would break down.
First impressions are that the Scumback H55 sounds weaker than the others. Which i weird since it's rated at 99 dB while the G12M Heritage for instance is rated at 96 dB. I don't feel it has a lot of low end either - not as much as the Ace 25, or even the G12M Heritage, but the low end might not come through at these moderate volume levels since it's got a 55 Hz cone? It's also placed bottom right in the cab and I'm on a chair fending off 20 month old twins, so I don't know…
So far
- G12M Heritage sounds really sweet - creamy high end, a classic Celestion sounding speaker.
- Ace 25 is also very nice, more bass and low mid than the greenback and a little different in the high end.
- The Weber is very Fender sounding - I think it'll probably sound best clean since it has a bit of an annoying fizz in the high end with distortion.
- The Scumback feels, at the moment, like a slightly worse sounding version of what I expected; a little harsh in the character and some fizz in the top end here too.
Will record with it in the studio this week and will get back with a full throttle review!
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[IMG:600:800]http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k106/ ... G_0149.jpg[/img]
[IMG:800:600]http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k106/ ... G_0155.jpg[/img]
[IMG:600:800]http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k106/ ... G_0163.jpg[/img]
[IMG:199:29]http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k106/ ... -2-3-2.jpg[/img]
Thanks everyone for your help!
It't looks like shit - I've learnt not to use fat cables like these George L's with the small switches I got for next time - but it works!
Tested it carefully with my multimeter and then with my small practice amp that I have in the apartment, a VOX VT15 which I don't mind if it would break down.
First impressions are that the Scumback H55 sounds weaker than the others. Which i weird since it's rated at 99 dB while the G12M Heritage for instance is rated at 96 dB. I don't feel it has a lot of low end either - not as much as the Ace 25, or even the G12M Heritage, but the low end might not come through at these moderate volume levels since it's got a 55 Hz cone? It's also placed bottom right in the cab and I'm on a chair fending off 20 month old twins, so I don't know…
So far
- G12M Heritage sounds really sweet - creamy high end, a classic Celestion sounding speaker.
- Ace 25 is also very nice, more bass and low mid than the greenback and a little different in the high end.
- The Weber is very Fender sounding - I think it'll probably sound best clean since it has a bit of an annoying fizz in the high end with distortion.
- The Scumback feels, at the moment, like a slightly worse sounding version of what I expected; a little harsh in the character and some fizz in the top end here too.
Will record with it in the studio this week and will get back with a full throttle review!
[IMG:600:800]http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k106/ ... G_0160.jpg[/img]
[IMG:600:800]http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k106/ ... G_0149.jpg[/img]
[IMG:800:600]http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k106/ ... G_0155.jpg[/img]
[IMG:600:800]http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k106/ ... G_0163.jpg[/img]
[IMG:199:29]http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k106/ ... -2-3-2.jpg[/img]
Thanks everyone for your help!
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ettepostkonto
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Re: 4x12 with 4 different speakers?
Now I've tested it loud and proud in the studio for a week and it really has come in handy there!
It's been great and really useful in order to find which amp-speaker-combination that works best for a particular part in the songs.
I've (usually) preferred the G12M Heritage when standing in front of it. It has a nice creamy top end that doesn't hurts your ears, a rich mid and a slightly rolled off bass. Live it sounds just like a guitar should sound, it's that simple! Miked, however, the others in the control room felt it got a little too middy. (Although I'm not a 100 % sure I agree. We did use it - only not as much as I would have liked.)
We ended up using the Tayden Ace 25 most, because it has a rich low mid and pronounced bas - as well as a sweet high end - traits that you really appreciate especially after miking it.
The H55 was the go to choice when we wanted some classic Marshall grind. It also worked really well miked, but live the resonance at 55 Hz gets damn near ridiculously low. (You don't really have any use for that extreme low end on a guitar, at least not in a band situation.) The treble can get a little stiff, harsh and fizzy too.
The 12F150 we never used this time - but that was just because we had a Twin there that sounded good. The last day, when I was on my own, when I tried it with my DRRI I actually liked the original speaker (Jensen C12K) better with that amp. First impressions is that it's a speaker for clean Fender type sounds since I felt it got a bit too fizzy with distortion. We'll see - I'll have to get back to you on this one...
To conclude: I had a ball with it - so much so I stayed behind when the guys went for lunch a couple of times - and it turned out to be really useful to find a recordable tone in the studio. To me, now the cab is about a 100 times more fun compared to when it was loaded with G12T-75s!
It's been great and really useful in order to find which amp-speaker-combination that works best for a particular part in the songs.
I've (usually) preferred the G12M Heritage when standing in front of it. It has a nice creamy top end that doesn't hurts your ears, a rich mid and a slightly rolled off bass. Live it sounds just like a guitar should sound, it's that simple! Miked, however, the others in the control room felt it got a little too middy. (Although I'm not a 100 % sure I agree. We did use it - only not as much as I would have liked.)
We ended up using the Tayden Ace 25 most, because it has a rich low mid and pronounced bas - as well as a sweet high end - traits that you really appreciate especially after miking it.
The H55 was the go to choice when we wanted some classic Marshall grind. It also worked really well miked, but live the resonance at 55 Hz gets damn near ridiculously low. (You don't really have any use for that extreme low end on a guitar, at least not in a band situation.) The treble can get a little stiff, harsh and fizzy too.
The 12F150 we never used this time - but that was just because we had a Twin there that sounded good. The last day, when I was on my own, when I tried it with my DRRI I actually liked the original speaker (Jensen C12K) better with that amp. First impressions is that it's a speaker for clean Fender type sounds since I felt it got a bit too fizzy with distortion. We'll see - I'll have to get back to you on this one...
To conclude: I had a ball with it - so much so I stayed behind when the guys went for lunch a couple of times - and it turned out to be really useful to find a recordable tone in the studio. To me, now the cab is about a 100 times more fun compared to when it was loaded with G12T-75s!
Re: 4x12 with 4 different speakers?
Congrats on getting it done.
Higher wattage speakers in my experience don't sound that great until you are putting some power through them.
Higher wattage speakers in my experience don't sound that great until you are putting some power through them.
Tom
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Re: 4x12 with 4 different speakers?
Bullshit IMO, I think EV's sound great at any volumeStructo wrote:Congrats on getting it done.
Higher wattage speakers in my experience don't sound that great until you are putting some power through them.
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Re: 4x12 with 4 different speakers?
Thanks!Structo wrote:Congrats on getting it done.
Higher wattage speakers in my experience don't sound that great until you are putting some power through them.
You mean a cranked DRRI is not enough to get it going? I mean the original speaker in the DRRI is a 100 watt C12K and that combo sounds really good to me...