Skyliner vs Classic, high vs low plate

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I am dwelling if I go for a skyliner or classic stack. I mainly play single coil stat and archtop p90's. My built does not have Overdrive (so cleans only)

I am starting of as a low plate skyliner transition and will tweak later to skyliner and then if not of my liking I will go classic probably

I read a lot of comments from this thread:
https://tubeamparchive.com/viewtopic.ph ... re+life+to

It seems most strat players agree in low plate with 5uF with either skyliner or classic

Most people I listen to who play Dumble have classic:
1) Mayer: #002, #004, Overdrive Reverb #59, Two Rock
2) Ben Harper #93
3) Ry cooder Borderline

The only reference I have for a high plate skyliner is mayer ODS HRM #223 which I really dig
and is the reason I want to start as skyliner

I am wondering if SRV dumbles were also Classic? What about Santana Overdrive Reverb

Anyone has other references of strat + skyliner?

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I found the answers here

https://tubeamparchive.com/viewtopic.ph ... luesmaster

https://tubeamparchive.com/viewtopic.ph ... er#p277162

A few other interesting topics and info I found on this matter

https://tubeamparchive.com/viewtopic.ph ... it=Pentode

https://tubeamparchive.com/viewtopic.ph ... e&start=30

https://tubeamparchive.com/viewtopic.ph ... er#p362140

I find the low-plate circuit to be more Strat friendly for sure. I have something close to #124, Skyliner tone stack, and no HF taper. It does have 330p snubbers on the OD stages, though; another way to pare back the highs a bit.

https://tubeamparchive.com/viewtopic.ph ... er#p285217

Please allow me to share my own experience with the Bluesmaster design. It can be a very frustrating design and BM should be regarded as a platform for modification rather than a useful design as is. If you search the forum, I think you would find that, this is a pretty general perception of the BM.

Being a STRAT player, I found the BM clean sound to quite fenderlike (blackface) with hollow mids etc., which can be fine depending your taste. However, as a consequence the OD will need PAB Megaboost (total tone stack lift/ or maybe a 22k to ground) in order to get anywhere near a Dumble'ish OD sound. The OD alone (without PAB) is not very interesting and sounds very raw in an unpleasant way.

Motive for trying out the BM in the first place, was to get more of a Fenderly (Chimy) clean - compared to the #102 and #183 (which are great for humbuckers), that I had already build.

I all fell into place when I tried the 2nd gen. design, which (for Strats) has a much better balance (than BM) between clean and OD. The Clean is great and (not too clean) and the OD sounds pretty much like the #102/#183.

Henry (member Heisthl) has a motto regarding these amps: "First get the Cleans right".

I guess a lot of us could have saved a lot of time, if we had followed that hookline, since many of us does the reverse, getting the OD right and focusing on the clean afterwards.

https://tubeamparchive.com/viewtopic.ph ... er#p277667