ODS on the 'Bay
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Re: ODS on the 'Bay
Does anyone know the production year of this amp?
It seems a lot newer than "late 80s early 90s" advertised by the seller.
Teo
			
			
									
									
						It seems a lot newer than "late 80s early 90s" advertised by the seller.
Teo
Re: ODS on the 'Bay
I believe it's no earlier than a  '96.  My best guess is '97-'99.
HTH, D
			
			
									
									
						HTH, D
Re: ODS on the 'Bay
LOL... Dumble made about 200 and this is SN 215. 
It does look beautiful though.
			
			
									
									
						It does look beautiful though.
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Yes, being one of the highest SN and the impedance selector let me agree on 97-99 production but the real question is: what kind of circuit does it have inside? how does it sound?Bob-I wrote:LOL... Dumble made about 200 and this is SN 215.
I can only guess an answer to the latter: sound fantastic anyway!
Teo
Re: ODS on the 'Bay
Exposure to this board would make me question if any Dumble that does not have provenance was genuine. I've seen some great examples of work that could easily be passed off as "genuine". I'm not saying the EBay Amp is not a real Dumble(it LOOKS like it is) but how would someone know for sure? Is there really a way to authenticate something that is not supposed to be sold if it is genuine? HAD's buyer agreement (if he still uses it) would mean that the seller could not authenticate it through the maker without admitting that he's selling it. Even the Serial# could be made up or an undetected duplicate - is there a HAD serial number reference list somewhere?  I bet several builders on this board (Funk comes to mind) could make an amp that looks and sounds exactly like this one in every detail. 
In fact it's a testament to the honest nature of amp builders that there are not more knock offs trying to cash in on the high prices. Anyone want to buy a Rolex?
I fully guarantee its authenticity that this is a GENUINE Dumble amp posting made about the amps Mr. Howard Alexander Dumble made himself.
			
			
									
									In fact it's a testament to the honest nature of amp builders that there are not more knock offs trying to cash in on the high prices. Anyone want to buy a Rolex?
I fully guarantee its authenticity that this is a GENUINE Dumble amp posting made about the amps Mr. Howard Alexander Dumble made himself.
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Re: ODS on the 'Bay
The only mean to be sure is to ask HAD directly. Due to high the prices of his creatures he is usually kind to certify if an ebay offer it's a fake, I have heard this happening one or two times during recent years.
To do that a detailed picture of the amp internals to be sent to HAD is obviously a must; so if the seller don't publish it among other pics on ebay it's ok, but he must clearly state that this and other additional info and documentation is available upon request to seriuos bidders.
If he doesn't, it's better to stay away...
Teo
			
			
									
									
						To do that a detailed picture of the amp internals to be sent to HAD is obviously a must; so if the seller don't publish it among other pics on ebay it's ok, but he must clearly state that this and other additional info and documentation is available upon request to seriuos bidders.
If he doesn't, it's better to stay away...
Teo
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FWIW,  I have seen amps that are Certified and legitimate up to #234,  so  #215 is not far fetched,  HOWEVER,  I have seen this very same amp pop up on ebay 2 or 3 times over the last year or so with the exact same pictures.  There are a couple of ways to authenticate it, the first being on the underside of the chassis,  Real amps have the tube compliment stamped near the tube sockets, as well as a fender-style tube chart inside the cabinet.  A real amp of this era would have an annodized chassis not a painted or powder coated chassis,  a real amp of this era would have the mounting bolts on the front and back pannels as opposed to the side pannel style of #124.  of course if you opened it up a real amp of this era should have the formica preamp board, HRM tonestack,  electroswitch impedance selector, PEM nuts for tube socket mounting, etc.  If it has all these things and is still a fake I'd be VERY SURPRISED!
One thing that throws up a red flag to me is the fact that the guy won't allow a local pickup, you bet your ass that if I was going to pay $20K + for an amp I would want to pick it up myself and see the goods before transferring funds.
			
			
													One thing that throws up a red flag to me is the fact that the guy won't allow a local pickup, you bet your ass that if I was going to pay $20K + for an amp I would want to pick it up myself and see the goods before transferring funds.
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He made more....   Billy Yates posted those pics of 234!
I think there must be about 250.....
One of the forum members here owned #216...
I think the one we played was in the 220's Bob.
My guess is 1997 or so....
This guy has had the amp posted many times.
			
			
									
									
						I think there must be about 250.....
One of the forum members here owned #216...
I think the one we played was in the 220's Bob.
My guess is 1997 or so....
This guy has had the amp posted many times.
Bob-I wrote:LOL... Dumble made about 200 and this is SN 215.
It does look beautiful though.
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Whoops!   Didn't see you post Brandon!
			
			
									
									
						Funkalicousgroove wrote:FWIW, I have seen amps that are Certified and legitimate up to #234, so #215 is not far fetched, HOWEVER, I have seen this very same amp pop up on ebay 2 or 3 times over the last year or so with the exact same pictures. There are a couple of ways to authenticate it, the first being on the underside of the chassis, Real amps have the tube compliment stamped near the tube sockets, as well as a fender-style tube chart inside the cabinet. A real amp of this era would have an annodized chassis not a painted or powder coated chassis, a real amp of this era would have the mounting bolts on the front and back pannels as opposed to the side pannel style of #124. of course if you opened it up a real amp of this era should have the formica preamp board, HRM tonestack, electroswitch impedance selector, PEM nuts for tube socket mounting, etc. If it has all these things and is still a fake I'd be VERY SURPRISED!
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Re: ODS on the 'Bay
No worries!!  I get the distinct scam feeling about this one just because ofthe "wire transfer only" and "No local pickup".
			
			
									
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I was laughing at this silly statement. I know he made over 200.dogears wrote:He made more.... Billy Yates posted those pics of 234!
I think there must be about 250.....
One of the forum members here owned #216...
I think the one we played was in the 220's Bob.
My guess is 1997 or so....
This guy has had the amp posted many times.
Bob-I wrote:LOL... Dumble made about 200 and this is SN 215.
It does look beautiful though.

Re: ODS on the 'Bay
So it seems that he doesn't manage to sell it for the money he wants to get for it.....on the other hand... I get the scam feeling too... Not the first ODS on the Bay that is there many times.
No local pickup..... I strongly agree with Funk!
 I strongly agree with Funk!
Jelle
			
			
									
									
						No local pickup.....
 I strongly agree with Funk!
 I strongly agree with Funk!Jelle
Re: ODS on the 'Bay
If it is a fake - any speculation(s) on who made it?
			
			
									
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Re: ODS on the 'Bay
I don't think it is a fake in the pictures,  I think perhaps the person with the auction doesn't actualy have the amp in the pictures.
			
			
									
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