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groovtubin
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Larry`s Dumble in this video

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f64XZRR ... e=youtu.be

Would somone pls enlighten me on this sound, wasn`t it converted to a ripper? HRM 6l6`s, bluesmaster driver?
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Re: Larry`s Dumble in this video

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groovtubin wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f64XZRR ... e=youtu.be

...wasn`t it converted to a ripper? HRM 6l6`s, bluesmaster driver?
Some opinions concerning this topic posted here some time ago:
LeftyStrat wrote:I saw this quote from Brandon in an old Amp Insider: "There are 4 basic voicings of the clean channel. Classic, Skyliner, Bluesmaster, and the Ripper. There are also a few different overdrive circuits. The Standard, HRM (Hot Rubber Monkey), and another more obscure circuit known as the MegaPlex. I believe The MegaPlex circuit really only exists in the Ripper model." (Source: https://tubeamparchive.com/viewtopic.php?p=303174#30317)
ayan wrote:No additional information has been mentioned since then. It seemed like the incarnation of Larry Carlton's latest Dumble, before moving on from HAD's amps and switching over to Bludo, was said to be a " Ripper/Megaplex." However, the clean section and the power amp were the same as a Blues Master in that amp, the difference being that the overdrive included a cathode follower and one gain stage instead of two gain stages like a regular BM. That would not explain what makes the "Ripper" the ripper...For what it's worth, although I never actually bonded with the BM, it can be made to sound great. My brief experiments with the LC overdrive circuit were different, that amp sounded harsher to me no matter what. Interestingly enough, I have found that every single Marshall amp I have played is capable of being dialed in to sound great, smooth or aggressive, but all the HRMs amps with internal overdrive tone controls have been a compromise to say the least. (Source: https://tubeamparchive.com/viewtopic.ph ... 239#303239)
BTW: Of course there are (at least!) 5 basic voicings of the clean channel and (at least!) 5 basic voicings of the OD channel. Brandon forgot to mention the "pre-classic" clean channels of many 1st, 2nd, and 3rd generation ODS amps and the "pre-standard" OD channel of many 1st, 2nd, and 3rd generation ODS amps.

Cheers,

Max
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Re: Larry`s Dumble in this video

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Max wrote:
groovtubin wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f64XZRR ... e=youtu.be

...wasn`t it converted to a ripper? HRM 6l6`s, bluesmaster driver?
Some opinions concerning this topic posted here some time ago:
LeftyStrat wrote:I saw this quote from Brandon in an old Amp Insider: "There are 4 basic voicings of the clean channel. Classic, Skyliner, Bluesmaster, and the Ripper. There are also a few different overdrive circuits. The Standard, HRM (Hot Rubber Monkey), and another more obscure circuit known as the MegaPlex. I believe The MegaPlex circuit really only exists in the Ripper model." (Source: https://tubeamparchive.com/viewtopic.php?p=303174#30317)
ayan wrote:No additional information has been mentioned since then. It seemed like the incarnation of Larry Carlton's latest Dumble, before moving on from HAD's amps and switching over to Bludo, was said to be a " Ripper/Megaplex." However, the clean section and the power amp were the same as a Blues Master in that amp, the difference being that the overdrive included a cathode follower and one gain stage instead of two gain stages like a regular BM. That would not explain what makes the "Ripper" the ripper...For what it's worth, although I never actually bonded with the BM, it can be made to sound great. My brief experiments with the LC overdrive circuit were different, that amp sounded harsher to me no matter what. Interestingly enough, I have found that every single Marshall amp I have played is capable of being dialed in to sound great, smooth or aggressive, but all the HRMs amps with internal overdrive tone controls have been a compromise to say the least. (Source: https://tubeamparchive.com/viewtopic.ph ... 239#303239)
BTW: Of course there are (at least!) 5 basic voicings of the clean channel and (at least!) 5 basic voicings of the OD channel. Brandon forgot to mention the "pre-classic" clean channels of many 1st, 2nd, and 3rd generation ODS amps and the "pre-standard" OD channel of many 1st, 2nd, and 3rd generation ODS amps.

Cheers,

Max
Thnakx Max!
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Re: Larry`s Dumble in this video

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I love LC (and RF) in this video! Of his two Dumbles, I remember reading that he liked one more than the other. The one with Music Man trafos, Bluesmaster/Ripper OD with 5881's. I hear "ceramic cap" artifacts too.

Sounds like Mega Boost and the Ripper in this one (from the same show):
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hkoA3O3oLCU

IMO,YMMV and all that good stuff!


Hope you're having a good one, Jim!

Hale 😃
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Re: Larry`s Dumble in this video

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Does anyone know which voicing Brandon has made for Larry?
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Re: Larry`s Dumble in this video

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Brandon does.
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groovtubin
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Re: Larry`s Dumble in this video

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groovtubin wrote:
Max wrote:
groovtubin wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f64XZRR ... e=youtu.be

...wasn`t it converted to a ripper? HRM 6l6`s, bluesmaster driver?
Some opinions concerning this topic posted here some time ago:
LeftyStrat wrote:I saw this quote from Brandon in an old Amp Insider: "There are 4 basic voicings of the clean channel. Classic, Skyliner, Bluesmaster, and the Ripper. There are also a few different overdrive circuits. The Standard, HRM (Hot Rubber Monkey), and another more obscure circuit known as the MegaPlex. I believe The MegaPlex circuit really only exists in the Ripper model." (Source: https://tubeamparchive.com/viewtopic.php?p=303174#30317)
ayan wrote:No additional information has been mentioned since then. It seemed like the incarnation of Larry Carlton's latest Dumble, before moving on from HAD's amps and switching over to Bludo, was said to be a " Ripper/Megaplex." However, the clean section and the power amp were the same as a Blues Master in that amp, the difference being that the overdrive included a cathode follower and one gain stage instead of two gain stages like a regular BM. That would not explain what makes the "Ripper" the ripper...For what it's worth, although I never actually bonded with the BM, it can be made to sound great. My brief experiments with the LC overdrive circuit were different, that amp sounded harsher to me no matter what. Interestingly enough, I have found that every single Marshall amp I have played is capable of being dialed in to sound great, smooth or aggressive, but all the HRMs amps with internal overdrive tone controls have been a compromise to say the least. (Source: https://tubeamparchive.com/viewtopic.ph ... 239#303239)
BTW: Of course there are (at least!) 5 basic voicings of the clean channel and (at least!) 5 basic voicings of the OD channel. Brandon forgot to mention the "pre-classic" clean channels of many 1st, 2nd, and 3rd generation ODS amps and the "pre-standard" OD channel of many 1st, 2nd, and 3rd generation ODS amps.

Cheers,

Max
Gimme a few years on it Max! lol!
Cheers!

jim
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