Dumble reverb in the Welegan SSS amp?

[Mark]

I've noticed that Jelle has built a SSS amp in silver and white. (My favourite colour!)

What piques my interest is the reverb, it has two controls and I'm wondering how it sounds. So Jelle any chances of doing a You Tube clips of the SSS with several speakers, and several guitars. (I'm somewhat suspicious of clips where the guys goes through all the five positions on his Strat and doesn't really showcase the amp.)

Anyway, I'll share the object of my desire with you.

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These are guts shots of his ODS amps, but it is a very clean built, well placed wires and not a sign of flux anywhere. I'm currently building D'Lite into a #0102 amp, and the co-ax is a pain, you have to the heat right to get the braid to stick to the pot. If it gets a mind of it's own as I discovered on my first attempt it is easy to hold the wire down with the iron and swash the co-ax.

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If I had the cash I'd get one in a heart beat, I don't want to spend years chasing up info, trying to work out the specs on the transformers and who built them etc. Let's face it not much is known here about these amps and the info isn't coming anytime soon. We all know the Ceriatone SSS doesn't sound the same as the SSS clips we've heard (though I'm glad Nik did release a SSS amp as it is closer to my budget.)

I'd like to do a bit less work on the amps and a bit more work on my playing as it has suffered.

If anyone wins lotto and feels generous you know what to get me!

[qtone]

Yes know the feeling missed one by so close not long ago.
wound up with bludo which was found on same day same morning....

I can say this wonderful amps...I dont own a Welagen yet but
I love the wiring as well its cleaner then Martha Stewarts koochie pop.
I too would buy one in a heartbeat and tried and skipped a few trying..

I wound up with the bludo and I am really floored how complex the amps are.

I fully understand what Srv meant by tone king console though.
Its like you walk up and mix in any sound if something from your pedals is just
not spot on you tweak an eq knob and THEY ACTUALLY DO SOMETHING.

I am truly floored by it and indeed its the circuit ive been missing and
the grail in my opinion.

I am 50 going on 51 this is my birthday present

If I died tomorrow they would never get the smile off my face
so it would be closed casket..

Trust me the hype is not bullshit on these amps...

NOT REPEAT NOT BULLSHIT

[qtone]

I have a td1 pedal and the tube is going away in it but its real hot yet...

I was using that pedal through Quinn 183 and the Bludo Hpd SSS amp at same time...

The tube in the td1 is dying and going bad but regardless
I hit both clean sides of each amp not using fet or boost or od on either odsr or sss.

I got this great stereo sound going using ab box with both amps on
same time same efx before both....

The Bludo was showing off how bad the tube was in the TD1
it stood right out as SHITTY and needing to be changed...

Instead of changing it though I turned treble up on HPD
and it fixed the sound instantly..

Thats what I mean by the eq knobs actually doing something

I am speaking of only moving it 1/16th though


lol

[qtone]

I forgot to add that while having both ODSR and SSS amp on at same time,
I never touched the lead channel on either one...

I used the td1 or a keely tube screamer ts9+
and that was noisy due to voodoo labs powering it.

The SSS amp is so sensitive it picks the hum up from bad td1 tube
or the voodoo labs power.

Which is supposed to be isolated... The SSS still hears it or picks that up.
So back to batteries on the ts9+

Boldaslove agreed said yea its picking that noise up.

Within 2 weeks time we will have quality you tube clips up with great audio.
this saga has only just begun..

I have a alesis hd 24 track and a mixer and he knows a way to hook
that all up so entire band is mixed right into hd recorder...
We might not have a band but we will get some good recordings...

I do have a great bassist and other great players here locally which can illustrate these sounds all have the specialty down so Id use them..

[jelle]

Mark, I'll try to get some clips done this weekend. If they are half decent. I'll post them here. I should have a sss, odrs, and a hotel hog.

[Cliff Schecht]

Qtone I can point you at a very simple schematic for getting CLEAN power to your pedals. It's essentially the LM371T circuit right out of the datasheet and filtered to hell and back. I run too many pedals to afford batteries and I can kick on 3 distortion pedals without having to yell over hum (the pedals hiss but it's not the PSU's fault). Really easy to build too, just a bridge rectifier-->cap-->LM317T (+ a few diodes and resistors)-->cap-->quiet 9V power. The LM317 has better line/load regulation than the 78XX series regulators so you get cleaner power. The other nice thing is you can power this off of any wall wart, AC or DC and either polarity, as long as there is enough V to keep the linear regulator from dropping out (dropout voltage of a 317 is also better than 78XX regulators).

Here's a schematic like what I'm talking about:
http://www.generalguitargadgets.com/dia ... _ps_sc.gif

[glasman]

Another approach and a lot less parts is a simple 7809 regulator. Feed it with the bridge and CFat (200 to 1000uf) to the 7809 and then a .01uf and 470uf.

The 317 is an adjustable regulator and requires a lot of extra parts to set the bias.

My kids pedal board supply consists of 6 7809's each feeding two coax connectors and 2 7818's for the roto vibe and a custom clean boost pedal.

[glasman]

Here is an example....

[Bob-I]

Here is an example....

I built one just like that for a friend, inside his ODD clone. I fed the output through the foot switch cable and put a 1/8" output on the pedal.

[glasman]

Here is an example....

I built one just like that for a friend, inside his ODD clone. I fed the output through the foot switch cable and put a 1/8" output on the pedal.

Thats a cool idea!!

Might have to remember that . My SOD II's use a CAT5 connector for the footswitch and I still have one vacant connection .... hmmmm.....

[Cliff Schecht]

Other reason to use the LM317T is the current handling. Believe it or not my old pedalboard cooked a 7809! Too many digital effects in the chain I suppose . I guess for normal people a 7809 is fine (and good enough for me nowadays) but the 317 is a superior part. The circuit I posted has killed the hum in my setup regardless of where I'm plugged in which to me is the most important part!

[Mark]

Hi Jelle

I'd like to see pictures and hear all three amp. The ODRS has piqued my interest.

Look forward to it Jelle.

[qtone]

@Cliff sounds interesting things are about to get real wild in Texas.

I m getting some quality help down here so my system will be fixed and
working finally for demos.

Once that is line out ill have hd 24 track to record too
and we will have hd video and audio for clips.

There is a benefit show for a buddy of mine here april 1st
we will be there filming and recording it and so ill have some
very good Srv type clips which will illustrate both odsr and SSS
as I plan to take them both at least the SSS amp for certain.


More to come on that.. The main goal is to capture great clips
and different players styles to illustrate what these amps really do live
cutting through the mix.

I will either be cutting all that too hd 24 track or h4n zoom or both
and a digital camera filming .

Stay tuned this are about to be hopping in Texas..

Dont worry this thread wont be worthless without clips and pics.

I gotta get this system setup first to really illustrate both amps together and how they sound with some better gear.

I am getting some help from someone you all know..
Bribery is sometimes a good thing.

[Mark]

Qtone what are you using to stop an earth loop occurring when using the two amps together?

[Structo]

Another approach and a lot less parts is a simple 7809 regulator. Feed it with the bridge and CFat (200 to 1000uf) to the 7809 and then a .01uf and 470uf.

The 317 is an adjustable regulator and requires a lot of extra parts to set the bias.

My kids pedal board supply consists of 6 7809's each feeding two coax connectors and 2 7818's for the roto vibe and a custom clean boost pedal.

What secondary do you feed the diodes and 7809? 9 or 12vac?