Orange Drop 6PS vs Xicon MPP caps?

[Joost]

I am getting ready to order for my 124 build. However, since 6PS caps are hard to find this side of the pond, I did a few searches on this board on good alternatives. I keep reading people like the Xicon MPP caps, but they don;t seem to come in all the value necessary.

So what can you suggest? What's your favorite cap? I like a sparkling clean sound

[stelligan]

I believe it would be worth your while to source 6PS caps if it is at all possible. They are the standard for these amps.

[Joost]

I believe it would be worth your while to source 6PS caps if it is at all possible. They are the standard for these amps.

Yeah, I could source them from tubesandmore.com but I read several people claiming they liked the Xicon even better, and they are readily available over here

[Guitarman18]

Here's a good place to start looking for 6PS caps in the EU:-

http://www.audiocap.co.uk/ps-series-pol ... p-49-c.asp

I think the trick is to get both types, so you can see which you prefer.


Hope this helps.

Cheers,

Paul.

[erwin_ve]

I am getting ready to order for my 124 build. However, since 6PS caps are hard to find this side of the pond, I did a few searches on this board on good alternatives. I keep reading people like the Xicon MPP caps, but they don;t seem to come in all the value necessary.

So what can you suggest? What's your favorite cap? I like a sparkling clean sound

I have done some testing with these caps. Results depend on matter of taste. If would never dare to use Xicon MPP for coupling cap; way too bright and a nasty edge at the Od sound. If 6PS is too dull try the Cornell Dubilier CDE DME series. It's brighter but not nasty at the OD sound.

[Joost]

Great tips! Thanks.

[pula58]

I am getting ready to order for my 124 build. However, since 6PS caps are hard to find this side of the pond, I did a few searches on this board on good alternatives. I keep reading people like the Xicon MPP caps, but they don;t seem to come in all the value necessary.

So what can you suggest? What's your favorite cap? I like a sparkling clean sound

I have done some testing with these caps. Results depend on matter of taste. If would never dare to use Xicon MPP for coupling cap; way too bright and a nasty edge at the Od sound. If 6PS is too dull try the Cornell Dubilier CDE DME series. It's brighter but not nasty at the OD sound.

which coupling cap are you referring to here?

I built a Fender AB763 kind of build with practically ALL Xicon MPP's (see schem). How would PS caps help, and, what would be the key locations to place them?

[erwin_ve]

I am getting ready to order for my 124 build. However, since 6PS caps are hard to find this side of the pond, I did a few searches on this board on good alternatives. I keep reading people like the Xicon MPP caps, but they don;t seem to come in all the value necessary.

So what can you suggest? What's your favorite cap? I like a sparkling clean sound

I have done some testing with these caps. Results depend on matter of taste. If would never dare to use Xicon MPP for coupling cap; way too bright and a nasty edge at the Od sound. If 6PS is too dull try the Cornell Dubilier CDE DME series. It's brighter but not nasty at the OD sound.

which coupling cap are you referring to here?

I built a Fender AB763 kind of build with practically ALL Xicon MPP's (see schem). How would PS caps help, and, what would be the key locations to place them?

I was referring to a dumble 3rd generation not a Fender. Some amp models require a different approach.

[pula58]

I was referring to a dumble 3rd generation not a Fender. Some amp models require a different approach.

hm...but if it was a dumble type of amplifier then which cap were you referring to in your post?

[erwin_ve]

I was referring to a dumble 3rd generation not a Fender. Some amp models require a different approach.

hm...but if it was a dumble type of amplifier then which cap were you referring to in your post?

Coupling cap? I thought you know what a coupling cap was, basic amp stuff.
Every cap following the signal to the next stage. Usually the one between the plate of one triode to the grid of the next one

[pula58]

I was referring to a dumble 3rd generation not a Fender. Some amp models require a different approach.

hm...but if it was a dumble type of amplifier then which cap were you referring to in your post?

Coupling cap? I thought you know what a coupling cap was, basic amp stuff.
Every cap following the signal to the next stage. Usually the one between the plate of one triode to the grid of the next one

ah..allright...you're saying all the coupling caps..from your post, the way it was worded, I thought you meant that there was one particular coupling cap that made a larger difference....but it's ALL the coupling caps (from plate to grids). O.k.. Thanks.

P.

[honeydip]

Hi Joost,

i am living in germany and was looking for those 6ps caps for my d-style amps. I ordered them from tubes and more and they were really helpful in shipping costs etc. I choose the shipping with "priotity Mail" and it took about 3 weeks until I got them with no problems. Shipping Costs were about 16Dollars. Talk To Steve.

Regarding the question 6ps or not I can only state, that 6PS has that midrange character that those d-style amps need in my opinion.
I built an amp that was completly loaded with xicons mpps at first and it was great, but the result after changing them to the 6ps was like "I finally found what was missing" to get where I wanted

So don't hesitate and get some of those caps, you'll be happy with it.

Jan

[Joost]

Thanks Jan,
Yes, I ordered the 6Ps caps yesterday from the link in the UK earlier in this thread:
http://www.audiocap.co.uk/ps-series-pol ... p-49-c.asp

Thanks Guitarman18

[honeydip]

Joost,

I was visiting the website you mentioned yesterday and found out that they do not offer 100nf Caps which you need in a dstyle build in PI and in the tonestack. Did you find them?

Regards

Jan

[Bob-I]

I play around a bit with both the 6PS and Xicon MPP and MP caps. (The MPP are higher values). Each has it's place.

I'll detail what I like in my gigging amp.

In the tone stack I like a mix, cheep ceramics for the pF range treble cap, (buy a bunch and test, some can be microphonic and some can be way out of tolerance) MPP for the mid cap and mid boost cap, 6PS for the bass cap. I tried the coupling caps and go back and forth. For V1b coupler I have 6PS and for V2a and b I have MP and MPP. PI couplers are all MPP.

Direction makes a difference too, more than I expected. There's youtube vids of how to check the caps polarity so search for that. All the caps benefit except ceramics.

Caps are cheep, experiment.

JMO