Steel String Singer

[talbany]

Hey Sure for that some little bit of something absolutely!!! My point simply put is give me a guy who can play like Stevie..if that's possible!!
or at least a guy who has really studied his style... Put him in a decent sounding Strat with I don't care what strings an Ampeg V4 or a Pair of Twins... and an 808
vers say a guy who hasn't studied that style or wants to try and make the style change in a month if he buy's a SSS..Give me the ladder... This holds especially true with guy's who plays really clean like Stevie.. vers a high gain type amp...
So for me that some little bit of something comes from the man/hands whatever...
Personally I liked Stevie's tone when he went to the SSS..so I'm not dissin your point.... it just kind of erks me when people say get a SSS and you will capture the tone of one of the most fascinating guitar players of our age . Not to sat that that was your point... COOL!!

Tony VVT

[chris_sanford]

The SSS is SRV tone without effort, Texas flood in a can if you will

And a can of whoop-ass it is. I heard the Fuchs clean machine at the LA Amp show this year (I believe it has some SSS dna), and it was like Stevie was in the room. Night and day between that amp and the regular ODS. Gil Ayan was there with me, and we both just shook our heads, smiled, and headed for the door. Nothing needed to be said. Game over, man. Game over...



chris

[Funkalicousgroove]

Obviously the player makes a difference, that's a moot point- but that little something you can't put your finger on comes out of the SSS, yo almost have to hear it to know what I mean.

so try this:

Use a low plate skyline clean section, into AB763 reverb, and ditch the trem and use that socket for the PI, Use the PI socket for an ampeg style driver section and you'll have the goods

[FUCHSAUDIO]

The SSS is SRV tone without effort, Texas flood in a can if you will

And a can of whoop-ass it is. I heard the Fuchs clean machine at the LA Amp show this year (I believe it has some SSS dna), and it was like Stevie was in the room. Night and day between that amp and the regular ODS. Gil Ayan was there with me, and we both just shook our heads, smiled, and headed for the door. Nothing needed to be said. Game over, man. Game over...



chris

[Max]

Tony, way to take it personally!
Look, I've watched guys chase SRV tone for years, they put big heavy strings on their strats, play vibroverbs, supers, marshall major's, etc and they all get pretty close, but that last little bit of something you can't quite put your finger on comes from the SSS.

The SSS is SRV tone without effort, Texas flood in a can if you will

To nail the "Texas-Flood-Tone" my personal experiences say that a Dumleland Special and a Dumble 4x12 cabinet loaded with EV 12L is best suited.

To nail the later "Live-Sound" of the Mid-Eighties (e.g. DVD "Live at Montreux" 1985) a SSS 150W with 6550A is a bit better suited than a Dumbleland Special, but the difference isn't that big if you adjust the Step Filters of the Dumbleland Special in the "glassy" direction (and maybe the "Mid-Accent" of some Dumbleland Special), that offers some more glassy "sing".

To achieve the wild and sometimes still more glassy "Live Sound" of the Mid-Eighties (e.g "Live in Italy") the Dumbleland Special 150 Watt (4x6550A) and Dumbleland 300SL (6x6550A) are both far better suited than a SSS 100 Watt with 6L6. The 100 watt SSS simply does not have the headroom and low-frequency-punch you need for Mid-Eighties SRV "Live-Tones".

These are of course my personal experiences, and only valid for my own ears. After all, "tone" is a matter of personal taste and individual perception.

Cheers and good night (good morning?) to all.

Max

[Funkalicousgroove]

Pretty sure the Orange dumbleland was only used to record texas flood, although it was recorded in Jackson Browne's warehouse, so it may have been jacksons dumbleland special 150-The story goes that Stevie scratched his initials into the back of the amp. The SSS amps I have seen make around 137 clean watts- I am guessing that they are very similar preamp sections with larger output sections- Could be wrong, I've only worked on 2 SSS amps and no dumblelands .

The mid accent switch simply puts a .001uf cap across the master volume in a bright cap type arrangement, but the ones I saw had that switch replaced with a presence control.

[Fischerman]

In that rear pic of the 300W...are those some sort of larger bottle 9-pin tubes next to the power tubes? What are they? Are they 'dual' tubes (two tubes in one envelope...could be two triodes or a pentode and a triode or whatever) or just one 'tube' in the envelope?

[Funkalicousgroove]

I think they are 12BH7's

[Structo]

I guess I don't understand the fascination with the SSS.

Doesn't seem like a very usable amp IMO.

But on the other hand I love all things Dumble so I guess it is just part of the mystique.

Seems like it would be better for using it as a PA.

[Hotrod Ford]

Pretty sure the Orange dumbleland was only used to record texas flood, although it was recorded in Jackson Browne's warehouse, so it may have been jacksons dumbleland special 150-The story goes that Stevie scratched his initials into the back of the amp. The SSS amps I have seen make around 137 clean watts- I am guessing that they are very similar preamp sections with larger output sections- Could be wrong, I've only worked on 2 SSS amps and no dumblelands .

The mid accent switch simply puts a .001uf cap across the master volume in a bright cap type arrangement, but the ones I saw had that switch replaced with a presence control.

Brandon,
to my knowledge the orange Cris cross 300w Dumbleland as pictured above was not even built at that time,
it was the old Dumbleland and/ or even "old Satin glove" that was used;)

also Stevie had 3 big big Dumbles and a 4th was on its way,
but that last one was keept by Dr D

Tommy Shannon also did have a Dumbleland bass amp
that he got in -83, I believe it was a 300w amp,

[dr. who]

other than the 300w vs 150w output, are the SSS and the 300sl basically the same beast?

[Funkalicousgroove]

Pretty sure the Orange dumbleland was only used to record texas flood, although it was recorded in Jackson Browne's warehouse, so it may have been jacksons dumbleland special 150-The story goes that Stevie scratched his initials into the back of the amp. The SSS amps I have seen make around 137 clean watts- I am guessing that they are very similar preamp sections with larger output sections- Could be wrong, I've only worked on 2 SSS amps and no dumblelands .

The mid accent switch simply puts a .001uf cap across the master volume in a bright cap type arrangement, but the ones I saw had that switch replaced with a presence control.

Brandon,
to my knowledge the orange Cris cross 300w Dumbleland as pictured above was not even built at that time,
it was the old Dumbleland and/ or even "old Satin glove" that was used;)

also Stevie had 3 big big Dumbles and a 4th was on its way,
but that last one was keept by Dr D

Tommy Shannon also did have a Dumbleland bass amp
that he got in -83, I believe it was a 300w amp,

Which Big ones did he have? I know he owned SSS #7, and another black SSS later on, what was the 3rd one?

I kinda figured the 150w JB amp looked more period appropriate, but the story about Stevie carving his initials in the back of the one he liked made me scratch my head about that orange suede amp, since it does have "SR" scratched into the back pannel.

I also heard that the Black one went down, and got sent back to Dumble, when Stevie got the repair bill he told Dumble to Keep it- any thoughts on the validity of that story?

[Funkalicousgroove]

double sorry

[thyx]

I also heard that the Black one went down, and got sent back to Dumble, when Stevie got the repair bill he told Dumble to Keep it- any thoughts on the validity of that story?

Hmmm. What I heard is that SRV ordered two SSS...I'm supposing the first one he got was #7. When it came time to ship the second one, HAD told SRV he owed him several thousand dollars in consultation costs for phone calls concerning the amps...at which point SRV told him to just keep the second amp (using similar but more colorful language). I wasn't personally there...that's just the story I heard.

[Funkalicousgroove]

I heard he got the second one, and it broke, and went back for repair- Same colorful response to Dumbles billing.