"Speakers for a Dumble" Thread

[Funkalicousgroove]

FWIW, I've been playing through a combination of a Tonker and a Swamp thing and am very pleased, on their own in a 1x12 I hate them both, but the combination of the two in a d-style 2x12 is quite nice (I HATED THEM FOR THE FIRST 30 HOURS BEFORE THEY BROKE IN) another nice speaker is the Weber Michigan in a 1x12, it's full and robust but has kind of a subdued top end. I know that HAD was a fan of the g12100H and the G1265 from Celestion, but most dumble cabs I see have EV SRO's (Pre EV12L with alnico magnets) EV 12l's, or Altec 417 8H. I have a Dumble ported 1x12 with an EV 12L, it really does the Larry Carlton thing well, but nowhere close to the RF sound, it just doesn't have enough "Give."

I am REALLY curious about the new Celestion "Gold" which is supposed to be a 60W version of the blue bulldog. Has anyone tried tone tubbies? Steve Kimock gets some pretty fantastic tones out of them with his Dumble.

[rutledj]

Is there some reason that 10" speakers aren't used more in guitar cabs as singles? I have a Weber 10" blue pup that I need a amp build to use and I was thinking of building a dumble clone into a SE power section.

Any thoughts? Does most of the distortion in the ckt come from preamp vs power amp?

Thanks
Rut

[Darkbluemurder]

I don't know about the Weber Blue Pup but in my Bandmaster I use 2 Weber 10A125 and 1 Weber 10F150. They are great for clean tones, OK for crunchy tones but suffer for overdriven lead tones. Too harsh and not singing. I greatly prefer the 12'' speakers. I thought about changing the speakers in the Bandmaster to Jensen Neo 10s but haven't got around to do it.

I believe Fuchs uses Eminence Ramrods or Ragin' Cajuns in some of his amps so they should work well for a Dumble sound. Unfortunately they are only available in 8 Ohm versions.

Cheers Stephan

[Wasserockinbluesman]

I know many of the guys like the Red, White & Blues (12") so I emailed Eminence and this is what they said ....


Thank you for emailing Eminence. The Ramrod has the most similarities to the 12" RW&B.

http://www.eminence.com/guitar_speaker_ ... B_CAT_ID=4

[Darkbluemurder]

I know many of the guys like the Red, White & Blues (12") so I emailed Eminence and this is what they said ....


Thank you for emailing Eminence. The Ramrod has the most similarities to the 12" RW&B.

http://www.eminence.com/guitar_speaker_ ... B_CAT_ID=4

Actually I considered replacing the Celestion G 100 for a RW&B (I could then use the G 100 for a different amp). I held back on that for now because I am unsure what this would do to the Marshall type crunch tones that I achieve with a pedal and the amp. Those tones are just as important to me as the clean and lead tones from the amp itself. However I guess that if the RW&B works well with a HRM amp it should be good for crunch tones as well.

What do you think?

[rutledj]

Could someone enlighten me as to what HRM stands for?

Rut

[Funkalicousgroove]

Hot Rubber Monkey (Hot rodded marshall) It is the post-OD tonestack that is found in later and modded Overdrive specials. A system of internal tone controls. HRM amps have separate master volumes for clean and dirty, and a more marshall-like voicing.

[rutledj]

Hot Rubber Monkey (Hot rodded marshall) It is the post-OD tonestack that is found in later and modded Overdrive specials. A system of internal tone controls. HRM amps have separate master volumes for clean and dirty, and a more marshall-like voicing.

Doesn't having two tone stacks "on" when the OD section is engaged make it difficult to adjust for tone? Almost seems like you need to bypass the 1st tone stack when this one is engaged, or does it just give limitless possibilities, and thus the beauty of it?

Rut

[rutledj]

Hot Rubber Monkey (Hot rodded marshall) It is the post-OD tonestack that is found in later and modded Overdrive specials. A system of internal tone controls. HRM amps have separate master volumes for clean and dirty, and a more marshall-like voicing.

Doesn't having two tone stacks "on" when the OD section is engaged make it difficult to adjust for tone? Almost seems like you need to bypass the 1st tone stack when this one is engaged, or does it just give limitless possibilities, and thus the beauty of it?

Rut

[dogears]

Very perceptive. The HRM is indeed only designed to be optimal with the PAB boost engaged. That bypasses the front stack.

Doesn't having two tone stacks "on" when the OD section is engaged make it difficult to adjust for tone? Almost seems like you need to bypass the 1st tone stack when this one is engaged, or does it just give limitless possibilities, and thus the beauty of it?

Rut

[rutledj]

Ok. What is PAB?
Forgive the noob questions

[Bob-I]

Ok. What is PAB?
Forgive the noob questions

Yes, we have lots of new terms to use.

Pre Amp Boost. It's a switch that disables the tone controls for more gain.

[59model]

Weber 1265 alnico - I like these. I used them for a while. Real sweet.... I need to put them back in my 2X12 and get to know them again. Maybe a bit bright if memory serves me correct.


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Hi Scott, I heard your clip at Weber`s site with this speaker and it sounded smooth as silk. I bought one because I liked your tone so much. Is there a long breaking in process these speakers have to go through? Mine has ice pick highs and I`m wondering if it may be defective. If it needs to be broken in, is there an easier way than blasting it for a long time? Thanks for any info you can provide.

[MarkB]

Ok. What is PAB?
Forgive the noob questions

Yes, we have lots of new terms to use.

Pre Amp Boost. It's a switch that disables the tone controls for more gain.

Not to be confused with PBR...

[rutledj]

[quote="dogears"]Very perceptive. The HRM is indeed only designed to be optimal with the PAB boost engaged. That bypasses the front stack.

Can you point me toward a schematic that shows the 1st stack getting bypassed? I don't see it in any listed here.

Rut