Funkalicousgroove wrote:A friend of mine owns Robbens old Dumble 4x12 from the "he don't play nothin but the blues" video which you can watch at robbens site in the video section. Sammy Sanchez(robbens tech at the time) told my friend that the cab was loaded with "Celestion 30's" to this day we are not sure if he meant vintage 30's or G12H-30's. All I know is that as many times as I've tried vintage 30's I know I don't like them, so I won't be doing any clips with them!!! LOL!! I just got some ASW speakers, I'll try those.
Also Just picked up a Japanese RF guitar, that may help as well- MAN I'm addicted to these things!
Hi Brandon,
G12H-30 (for my ears) work perfect with many ODS styles. I love these with 70ies Dumbles! An early seventies ODS (50W too!) and a Marshall "basketwave" (25, pre-Rolas) resoldered for 4 OHMS are a great combination too. All my personal taste of course and if the speakers still in perfect condition.
If you can, try to compare the G12H-30 version with a 1777 cone to the one with the 014 cone. I know which one I like for which application! Very different and both very cool. Have fun!
Jelle
Max wrote:
Funkalicousgroove wrote:A friend of mine owns Robbens old Dumble 4x12 from the "he don't play nothin but the blues" video which you can watch at robbens site in the video section. Sammy Sanchez(robbens tech at the time) told my friend that the cab was loaded with "Celestion 30's" to this day we are not sure if he meant vintage 30's or G12H-30's. All I know is that as many times as I've tried vintage 30's I know I don't like them, so I won't be doing any clips with them!!! LOL!! I just got some ASW speakers, I'll try those.
Also Just picked up a Japanese RF guitar, that may help as well- MAN I'm addicted to these things!
Hi Brandon,
G12H-30 (for my ears) work perfect with many ODS styles. I love these with 70ies Dumbles! An early seventies ODS (50W too!) and a Marshall "basketwave" (25, pre-Rolas) resoldered for 4 OHMS are a great combination too. All my personal taste of course and if the speakers still in perfect condition.
If you can, try to compare the G12H-30 version with a 1777 cone to the one with the 014 cone. I know which one I like for which application! Very different and both very cool. Have fun!
Jelle
Hi Jelle,
Yes, you're right. I even mixed both kind of cones in a 4x12" and liked it .
Tag wrote:
Like Scott says, bright and smooth is the tough part of the Dumble magic.
And I would like to add:
- definition a n d charme
- right into the face a n d leaving no bruises
- articulate in all tiny details of picking and fingering a n d just the tiny bit of sag to give the right playing comfort
- shimmering highs a n d no trace of fuzz
- mids that give enough body to carry the tone a n d never "thru the nose" but singing like a tenor with chest- and head-voices
- deeps that are fundamental a n d defined
- OD sounds that are clean a n d full of lush and rich harmonics
- clean sounds that are clear and defined like a bell a n d sustaining like hell
Brandon, terrific sound and great playing. Better than most, if not all, other takes on Politician over the years.
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I think there's a version that Robben Ford did, it's pretty good too.
Max wrote- mids that give enough body to carry the tone a n d never "thru the nose" but singing like a tenor with chest- and head-voices
I wonder if that's part of why Stevie Ray didn't care for the ODS like the discusion going on in the other thread; an old freind of mine's dad taught Stevie to literaly sing "through his nose".
I think that a lot of tweaking ends up getting the amp to talk to the guitar and also not to get to weird or anything, but to certain "chakra" that artistically make sense to the player.
Some players are centered in their brainpan, others their heart, others their groin, of course some play with their whole body, but I think where their musical thoughts originate has something to do with amp preference.
Maybe he'll give us gut shots of his Dumble!! LOL!!
, I've already started stockpiling the Old Speckled Hen.
