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I posted this in the garage a few days ago. Granted it's not a Fender and those appear to be noiseless pups of some kind. Did VA wind their own? Lace? Anyway, I don't hear no buzz out of the Mullet man. I would say that's non HRM.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WkArP1YjlQ0&NR=1
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Pretty sure those are EMGs
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candh wrote:Wound a little hotter, too. 7+k for a tele bridge, 5.8~ for strat bridge.
I have a vintage Gibson with P90 pickups. The bridge PU is 8k, sounds a bit like a humbucker, :D certainly is not at all too bright.
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jurgen wrote:Pretty sure those are EMGs
They look like EMG's to me as well. And he might even have their SPC (Strat Presence Control) on it for all we know...it makes the SC pickups sound fatter, like a humbucker. I have one on my Strat with passive pickups.
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do you think this might work?

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I'm basically a Strat guy too so I did a little noodling last night. Please have a look at this and see if there are any holes.

The "Strat Switch" would be a 3P2T mini located between the treble and bass pot. Those two pots would be dual-ganged Alpha's. IIRC, it is pretty easy to pry the back one off and replace it with another value. Since both the log and linear pots are available in the 24mm package, it should be just an issue of mixing and matching. I have left out the 10m resistors, mid, deep, r/j for clarity but you get the idea.

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Here's another Carlton clip with Strat, single coils...definately NOT EMG.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VwGHaKbn ... re=related

It's got a little of the top-end fizz that you're trying to get rid of, but listen how he makes it work.
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Normster wrote:Here's another Carlton clip with Strat, single coils...definately NOT EMG.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VwGHaKbn ... re=related

It's got a little of the top-end fizz that you're trying to get rid of, but listen how he makes it work.
Great clip. You can really hear the "Strat" tone when he plays those chords on the E,A, and D strings up around the 14th fret. The amp really responds to pick attack too. Funny about the fizz. If you listen to RF on (say) "Worried Life Blues" (Mystic Mile), reportedly played on his '60 tele I don't hear fizz. The pickups are very similar, just mounted so differently that you get the Tele twang.
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Maybe related to the base plate that a tele has on the bridge pickup.
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on my overtone, the strat on the clean channel sounds absolutely killer and gorgeous...so did the cheap squier custom II with P90s....on the OD channel in another story, a bit of buzz is present...with the 335 is a lot smoother...with the p90s you get a middle way between singles and humbuckers, with a nice top end sparkle and solid bottom...the mids are a bit back and sounds a little thin...
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Normster wrote:Here's another Carlton clip with Strat, single coils...definately NOT EMG.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VwGHaKbn ... re=related

It's got a little of the top-end fizz that you're trying to get rid of, but listen how he makes it work.
Cool! I love that tune - never seen Carlton do it on a Strat before (strikes me that Room 335 oughtn't be done on a strat though. :) )

I was also surprised to see he did it on the neck PUP.
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odourboy wrote:
I was also surprised to see he did it on the neck PUP.
I"ve got a couple CD's where he's playing a Strat -- similar tone. It's what I was hoping to get out of my D'lite, but it's not happening yet. Did those look like 57 style pickups (raised magnetic poles)? I always thought LC was big into vintage guitars, so I'm guessing it really is a 50's Strat if it looks like one.

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stelligan wrote:Here's an old sloppy clip of my Strat through a D'Lite 22(6V6)
http://members.cox.net/baldspot/dLiteLoop.mp3

I must try an 05
Great blues tone! Do you remember how you had the amp dialed up when you recorded this clip? Neck pickup? And are you tuned to E or Eb?

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I have a friend with a Fuchs TDS 50 and an american strat with the stock SC pickups and he got fantastic cleans with no nastiness. I think he might have been using that MXR clean boost pedal in front though - you might try that.
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Mark,
Boy - a long time ago, but I'd guess the settings from that strat clip were close to being:
Vol: 1 Tre: noon Mid: 1 Bass: 1 or 2 Gain: 3 Level: 11 Pres: 2 (all as in O'clock) with PAB switched on and off throughout clip. I am currently working on the best non and HRM Strat clip I can conjure. I'll post it on this thread.
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