A Quick Word on the Use of TC Pedal in Loop Without D-lator

[Aaron]

PS in case I forget may I wish you and all the guys a very enjoyable tour Down Under

Hi Marcus,
I just got back from doing a 2 week tour in Europe. Finished in London and Brighton. Weather was great, had a sleep in a deck chair on Brighton Pier
Are you doing any shows in Queensland?
Thanks,
Aaron

P.S:- sorry to derail thread

[norburybrook]

Glad you enjoyed the UK, you picked a good time to come.

I think we're doing a couple of shows in Brisbane and the gold coast.

My brother lives in Cairns so I'm going there for 10 days after the last gig.

Marcus

[Structo]

When I saw Robben (trio)a couple years ago he had the Dumble and a few pedals scattered on the floor.
No Dumbleator or 2290.

It was at a small vintage theater that had seen better days.

I expected to get blown away by his volume but was surprised that it wasn't painfully loud.
He looked tired and possibly sick.
It was the end of a tour and I'm sure he just wanted to go home.
I'm not saying he phoned it in but you could tell he just wanted the night to end.

Back to the pedals on the stage floor, he had some connection problems later on in the show that was causing some snaps and crackles and I could tell it was bugging him.

I think he has gotten away from the rack gear for the simple reason that it probably got to be a hassle on fly dates. It's like shipping another amp cab.
He streamlined his setup.

A compact pedal board built by Vertex.

But he still sounds like Robben even through Red Knob Twins. (+ maybe a Zen Drive)
He, more than many other guitarists seems to keep the same sound/ tone no matter where he plays or what gear he uses. (ears and fingers)

But I really prefer his Blue Line tones and would have loved to see them back in the day.

I know it's a Tag line, but Politician remains as one of my favorite guitar tones. Rhythm and lead.

I've only seen one video of this song live, which is poor quality.
Tele into Dumble ODS w/ Dumbleator and TC 2290.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MOkeYT62T1k

Then there is this, a more Cream oriented Politician.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUELab8Lmm8

[Structo]

2002 rig with variac.

Not sure where this was, probably Europe.

[Aaron]

I just tried the loop with my Klon KTR cause it has the buffer switch on the side.
With no buffer I could really hear the high end loss, sounded flat.
With the buffer on it sounded much better, but still had very slight high end loss. To me it sounded similar to using effects in the front with no buffer.

Very useful to tame the high end if you had a bright sounding amp.

Cheers,
Aaron

[brentm]

2002 rig with variac.

Not sure where this was, probably Europe.

You can see the amp is voiced fairly bright... both bright and mid switches are off. No EQ settings are over 5 and the presence is turned down fairly low.

[ayan]

The amp is documented as being bright. However, pay close attention to the Dumbleator and you will see that the SEND bright switch is on.

Gil

2002 rig with variac.

Not sure where this was, probably Europe.

You can see the amp is voiced fairly bright... both bright and mid switches are off. No EQ settings are over 5 and the presence is turned down fairly low.

[Charlie Wilson]

The amp settings in that photo are pretty much were I like my Low Plate Classic with the exception of were the master volume is set. I guess that is were the Dumbleator comes in. Although not having built or played around with a Dumbleator yet, how much amp volume is being reduced by the Dumbleator settings?
CW

[brentm]

The amp settings in that photo are pretty much were I like my Low Plate Classic with the exception of were the master volume is set. I guess that is were the Dumbleator comes in. Although not having built or played around with a Dumbleator yet, how much amp volume is being reduced by the Dumbleator settings?
CW

I don't know what other people experience... but at those settings, I'd expect to set the master at 3 instead of the pictured 6.

[norburybrook]

Looks like an outdoor festival , big stage, so probably can use the extra volume on a gig like that. Remember is Robben's gig, it's not like he's a side man and having to keep his volume down.



Marcus

[Structo]

ALso remember that the output of the Dumbleator sets the overall volume to the power amp.

I usually run my pre volume at 1:00 and the master about the same.

[Charlie Wilson]

The amp settings in that photo are pretty much were I like my Low Plate Classic with the exception of were the master volume is set. I guess that is were the Dumbleator comes in. Although not having built or played around with a Dumbleator yet, how much amp volume is being reduced by the Dumbleator settings?
CW

I don't know what other people experience... but at those settings, I'd expect to set the master at 3 instead of the pictured 6.

That seems reasonable for an outdoor gig. I know it is Robben's gig and he can be as loud as he wants but after 30 years and thousands of gigs, I would think that he wouldn't want his stage volume too loud to save his hearing.
CW