line level reverb suggestion

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Re: line level reverb suggestion

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Structo wrote:I used to use a Boss RV-5 with my Dumbleator, then a Hardwire RV-7 which I think has a good reverb.

The effect that shines on the Boss RV-5 is the modulation setting, kind of chorusy.

Then I got a TC Electronics 'G Sharp' which is the lower end Delay/ Reverb from them.

That really sounds good in the D'lator.

Recently I acquired a Xotic X Blender which a sort of parallel loop device like the Suhr MiniMix but about $60 cheaper.
Except this has a large knob you can adjust the wet/ dry mix with your foot plus a phase switch, vol, bass, treb.

I like a touch of delay and reverb to warm up the sound a little.
What is the headroom of the XBlender?
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Re: line level reverb suggestion

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Sorry John I don't know.

I'm sure your Minimix is a fine device especially with the isolation transformers, I simply could not afford it.
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ODS FX loop - reverb

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I've been looking into this recently - i.e. a solution to using reverb, etc. FX in the ODS (clone) loop without a Dumbleator, etc. While the best solution seems to be a product like the Fuchs Verbrator, for those not wanting to spend close to $400 for that unit, the TC Electronic Toneprint pedals will work. I specifically asked this question at NAMM yesterday to a TC rep and he told me that yes, if the pedal sees a +4db input from the FX send, it will output +4db to the FX return.

So I did the test this afternoon with a TC HOF reverb patched directly into the ODS FX loop. It does work, but two slight differences: (1) very slight volume drop - maybe 1-2 db; (2) you lose a bit of top end/highs in the frequency response with the pedal on. When off, it is true-bypass with no volume or EQ difference. So the solution I found to compensate for the EQ is to engage the bright switch and drop the treble knob a few notches. I was able to achieve fairly satisfactory gig-worthy results that way. And I can always revert to my more elaborate setup with the Dumbleator (clone) if desired. Hope that helps!
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Re: line level reverb suggestion

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I'm in the process of finishing a Dumbleator, and wanted a spring reverb built into it. However there wasn't enough room in the head box to mount the Dumbleator and a reverb tank.

Turns out that Accutronics makes a solid state reverb module, the BTDR-3H:

http://www.tubeampdoctor.com/images/Fil ... MODULE.pdf

This looked very interesting, and there is a site that offers a project PCB with the module for $24:

http://1776effects.com/wp-content/uploa ... xe-BOM.pdf

I installed one of these modules/PCBs in the Dumbleator, feeding it with the signal from the Recover input pot wiper, with a bypass switch. The supply to the PCB was raised to 16V single supply to maximize headroom in the loop.

So far I'm pretty happy with the tones, but it's a bit on the boingy side with hard picking transients. This might be helped by placing a cap in series with pin 3 input to the module (I'm starting at 0.02uF to give an approximate 800Hz high pass with the module's 10k input Z).

The project has adjustment for dwell and reverb tone, and allows a great deal of tonal options. The entire project was also designed to go into a foot pedal, so the footprint is small (about 4.25in^2 without pots). The Drive and Recover input pots can be set to around 6-7 before hearing any clipping on the reverb signal; I still need to get out the scope and tweak the circuit and module input to lessen the possibility of clipping. But this is not critical as the Recover output has plenty of signal to drive the heck out of the power amp.

If I ever get time I'll try to post audio if any of y'all are interested. I can also post pics once I get the inside of the project cleaned up.
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Re: line level reverb suggestion

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