TweedMaster non-HRM

[da Geezer]

Erwin's amp sounds much better.

I don't know if it is a language thing but that was a pretty snarky comment.

Obviously not a language thing

[erwin_ve]

Well, I loved the way Geezer's amp sounded. (Jeff plz respond to my question, few posts above)
My built is different because it doesn't have a tube rectifier, voltages are different etc. So Jeff has to come up with something to make his built sounding good. I think he did a great job, in every way he took it a step further than my built.

For selfish reasons it's very nice to get compliments about a built. In my case; everything, and I mean everything I did in my bluesmaster non-hrm is learned here at ampgarage, lurking, reading posts, trying things myself.
All I did was use my ears and take valuable information from this forum.
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder!

[da Geezer]

In case you missed it, I think this quote sums up sven's character pretty well:

And ... kindly obseve how petty American fascist ¨da Geezer¨ actually took time to actually SEARCH my posts (wow!) to ¨be able¨ to ¨disqualify¨ me from the judging panel on the issue of quality of sounds of D-ckt. amps. Wow! I never did that ... well, it certainly comes from the fact that I am not a little American fascist

[da Geezer]

By lowering the snubbers; Do you bleed a lot of highs to ground with the Od treble bleed control? Just curious.

Hi Erwin!

No, I don't have to cut much highs off at all........I think it's because I also ADDED snubbers across the plate resistors to sort-of offset the decreased snubbers on the plate/cathodes. I tend to like plates snubbers (for some reason) so I just combined the two for the results my ears were looking for.

Thanks again for your original work on this circuit!

Geezer

[erwin_ve]

WE crossed posting this and PM. Thanks!

[10thTx]

Geezer,

Shake off Sven's comments. They are perhaps the most unwarranted, unkind, unnecessary and hostile remarks I've seen someone make on any amp forum in a long time.

And it was interesting to see Sven refer to Mat because Mat & I communicated back and forth for a few weeks and I found Mat to be remarkably humble, helpful with his expertise, incredibly gracious and a delight to interact with. Likewise Erwin seems to be remarkably generous in sharing his knowledge and gracious in his comments. I genuinely appreciate the international community that we share.

I am grateful to see forum members share what they've learned particularly when they are trying new approachs. I think that's very cool.
Your amp has an innovative approach & appreciate your sharing it.

You made a great amp with great tone & I enjoyed your playing. Thanks for sharing your success!

With respect, 10thtx

[Deric]

Geezer,

Great sounding amp! Great sounding clips! Thanks for sharing your work!

erwin,

Thanks for your hard work, great clips and inspiring the evolution of this great circuit!

[Structo]

I find the tube rectifier and cathode bias very interesting and I like what I hear.
This might make a terrific grab and go 6V6 combo.

Hmmmm, the wheels are turning...

[HeeBGB]

Please don't make me close this thread or edit your posts. This was totally uncalled for and out of line. Even if you were offended by da Geezer's comments ..... this was simply not a proportionate response. Scale it back please.

However, I wasn't aware that it was a competition, or I would have tried much harder to impress you, sven.

I searched your posts for links to some of your amp soundclips, but was unable find any.....can you post some links so that we can critique them & you than get in on the competition?

TIA, Geezer

¨da Geezer¨ must be American! With all the distancing from other Americans who do not fit this image that pops in my mind while reading ¨da Geezer¨ comments, now I must ¨draw blood¨ here and state that these (Americans) are the people that I met in my life (worked there in the West Coast USA studios for two decades), who almost immediately become very cynical, very defensive in a mean way, when someone tells them the plain facts, the plain truth.

Is there a CRITERIA for what good sound is, or is there NO CRITERIA? Of course there is, otherwise it would be completely pointless to praise some sound of some amp, or state the opposite. Do I have the criteria in my mind, in my ear? You betscha, you bet!

And ... kindly obseve how petty American fascist ¨da Geezer¨ actually took time to actually SEARCH my posts (wow!) to ¨be able¨ to ¨disqualify¨ me from the judging panel on the issue of quality of sounds of D-ckt. amps. Wow! I never did that ... well, it certainly comes from the fact that I am not a little American fascist.

Well, while using my criteria, I obviously did not find myself in the cheering, cowtowing line that applauds the sound of Geezer's amp, so the immediate response from the said Geezer was his infantile set of attempted insults - that sound like he squashed his geezer in a lemon squeezer (corny enough for you?).

Facts are facts, sounds are sounds - and I, as a life-long very experienced pro sound engineer, guitarist and amp builder, and also a person with a degree in Electrical Engineering (not much to do with sound, per se, though, but it helps... in more way than one), state again: The claim here is that ¨Geezer¨ amp is a variation of Erwin's amp. Well, it might look similar and have some similarities as many amps i D-ckt. do here - but, soundwise, it has not much to do with quality and excellence of Erwin's amp as demonstrated by Erwin's clip posted here couple of weeks ago.

I have been on this forum during the past four years, and good D-ckt. sounds have been demonstrated here in that period - most notably, IMO, sound of a memeber from Finland (nick: ¨mat¨), with his early non-HRM D-ckt. amp he made (AWESOME AMP SOUND), and now by this Dutch fellow Erwin with his BM non-HRM amp. he was so kind to disclose (full schematics, too) and demonstrate on this forum.

I am not supposed to demonstrate ¨my own amp¨ to judge sounds of amps - if that was so, I would have had to build more amps in my life than any member on this forum except professional amp builders. I am not a professional amp builder, I just LOVE amps and sounds of good amps, if that is not a problem with other members of this forum, thank you very much.

Judging a good sound is something someone must know, experience and feel. If someone cannot hear what is good in a certain way, I am so sorry ... that is beyond my or anyone's ability to correct and/or improve.

Good sound is something one can or cannot hear - and that is where I rest my case. As always in any studio session .... for many years.

Sound of ¨Geezer¨ amp is below the average sound clip demonstrated here for some time .... it is fuzzy, shallow sound, not improved even by making it wet.

I recommend modification of that amp to be exactly like Erwin's amp. Actually, I am going to build a D-style amp to that exact shcematics of Erwin's amp (thank you Mr. Erwin)!

All the best to sound afficionados on this forum.

[10thTx]

I find the tube rectifier and cathode bias very interesting and I like what I hear. This might make a terrific grab and go 6V6 combo.

That is exactly what I am doing making a small combo 6V6 of Geezer's design. Only have a few hrs left to complete it. I'm using an 18watt type tweed chassis where I cut off 1.5" on one end. The cab has a Red,White and Blues in it.

With respect, 10thtx

[Structo]

Cool!
Love to see it when you are done. Clips would be a bonus!

[super100]

DaGeezer and Erwin_ve,

Both builds sound great.
You guys have done a great job.
Thanks for sharing the information and clips.

[sliberty]

Facts are facts, sounds are sounds - and I, as a life-long very experienced pro sound engineer, guitarist and amp builder, ..... state again: The claim here is that ¨Geezer¨ amp is a variation of Erwin's amp. Well, it might look similar and have some similarities as many amps i D-ckt. do here - but, soundwise, it has not much to do with quality and excellence of Erwin's amp as demonstrated by Erwin's clip posted here couple of weeks ago.

IMHO, tone is more in the players hands than it is in the amp. Sven - you, as a "life-long very experienced" blah blah woof woof should know this too. You can't compare two amps by listening to clips that were created using different microphones, different rooms, different guitars, and most importantly in my mind, different guitarists.

Geezer's amp sounds real nice to me, and I don't even like the Dumble thing all that much.

At the end of the day, this forum thrives for two reasons:
1. Lots of information sharing.
2. Lots of respect for each other.

Think about it.

Oh, and by the way, It's not very neighborly of you to bash the US (or Americans in general) on a forum that is hosted in the US, and paid for by someone who lives in the US and is rather patriotic.

[CHIP]

DaGeezer and Erwin_ve,

Both builds sound great.
You guys have done a great job.
Thanks for sharing the information and clips.

+1
When I finish my current build, I'm seriously thinking of modding my D'Lite to Erwins schem. Those Strat tones were awesome.

[pullshocks]

Yo Sven-- this is an amplifier forum.

Geezer is an individual who has shared numerous amp designs. He explains what he is doing and why. He tries new things all the time. He posts about what he is doing. He puts up sound clips to show how different circuits sound. He shares. He contributes. He is creative. The designs he put out there have a level of innovation and he works hard to get the sound he likes. And he shares it. He puts it out there for us to read and use if we choose to do so. He doesn't keep it secret. He puts it out there.

I have read hundreds of Geezer's posts, here and elsewhere. He is always positive. He is respectful. He acknowledges the work of others. I have never seen him post a negative comment about anybody else's amp. He doesn't say his way is the only way. He doesn't say his way is right and everybody else is wrong. If somebody else adapts or modifies his design, he is cool with that.

lt's OK for you to have a preference for one design over another. We all have preferences. But the words you used to express your preference came off as a deliberate put-down.