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Re: New government regulations?

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Structo wrote:I'll bet it has to do with European consumer electronics safety codes or something.
They are getting so restrictive it's a wonder they can sell anything there.

They didn't have the kinks worked out of non lead solder before they implemented that and they had a lot of failures.
I wonder how many fires were started by faulty soldering.

What's really bad is you know it's coming soon to a neighborhood near you.
LOL :lol: :lol:
In Europe we think that US customer protection laws are so restrictive and hard to understand, that it prevents many EU companies from even trying to get into the market......which is probably the intention from US goverment side.

Many companies in EU has horror experiences from the US market, where they are getting law suits, e.g. if they don't put stickers on microwave owens, clearly advising against putting your kits or pets in the machines.

I guess in both areas, US and EU, goverments try ther utmost to restrict free world trade. 8)
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Tonegeek wrote:I just sent email to Magnetic Components to see if they will be doing the same thing. This should tell us if there is a govt. mandate.
Heres the response from Magnetic Components:

Hi Whit,

I have not heard anything on this at all and we deal with many larger amplifier manufacturers that use multi-tap/ multi-national power transformers. This is news to me. It could be just a rumor.

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I guess in both areas, US and EU, goverments try ther utmost to restrict free world trade. 8)
Laws and regulations are made by large corporations for large corporations who can afford hundreds of lobbyists and lawyers. Global oligopolies at work.
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The response that I received from my Heyboer contact is that they haven't heard anything about it.

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ToneMerc wrote:The response that I received from my Heyboer contact is that they haven't heard anything about it.

TM
I have a call into Alden and I am sure he is laughing.

Sounds like a way for MM to sell more transformers....
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glasman wrote:
ToneMerc wrote:The response that I received from my Heyboer contact is that they haven't heard anything about it.

TM
I have a call into Alden and I am sure he is laughing.

Sounds like a way for MM to sell more transformers....
Yeah, he emailed me earlier. I'm sure he's going to wonder what's up with the inquiries. I'm also waiting for Phil to reply back.

You might be right, I tried searching the IEEE and NEMA sites last night and I couldn't find anything.
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bluesfendermanblues wrote:
Structo wrote:I'll bet it has to do with European consumer electronics safety codes or something.
They are getting so restrictive it's a wonder they can sell anything there.

They didn't have the kinks worked out of non lead solder before they implemented that and they had a lot of failures.
I wonder how many fires were started by faulty soldering.

What's really bad is you know it's coming soon to a neighborhood near you.
LOL :lol: :lol:
In Europe we think that US customer protection laws are so restrictive and hard to understand, that it prevents many EU companies from even trying to get into the market......which is probably the intention from US goverment side.

Many companies in EU has horror experiences from the US market, where they are getting law suits, e.g. if they don't put stickers on microwave owens, clearly advising against putting your kits or pets in the machines.

I guess in both areas, US and EU, goverments try ther utmost to restrict free world trade. 8)
Sweden's safety laws forced the Swedish distributor of Fender to remove all the standby switches back in the late 1990's as a Safety issue. Of course I think there are now discussion to install devices to cut the power off if the decibel level becomes to loud to protect the club or concert goers from deafness.

Go figure.

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I wonder what is unsafe about a standby switch?

Is it because of the high voltage it is switching?
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Structo wrote:I wonder what is unsafe about a standby switch?

Is it because of the high voltage it is switching?
That is probably the reason.

In many extreme HV applications, the standby switch is in the transformer center tap keeping the HV away from the switch, fingers and chassis.
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Why don't we switch our standby that way?
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Standby switches are not even needed. Why bother. (he says as he just finished another amp with a standby switch) :lol: I think there is some psychological reason behind the old stby switch. Gives you a sense of control. Plus 2 switches look cooler than one. Twenty years ago I sacrificed my standby switch on the Twin for a 60/100 watt switch. That's the amp I converted to a non-HRM (just got it working yesterday). Anyhoo, the power tubes are still working just fine after twenty years. Ok, I lie, one of them is microphonic, but it aint because of the missing standby switch. 8)
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I was told by Mercury today it is because of a European import restriction.
And I did assume correctly yesterday that you can still get the dual primary (with 100 or 120 in combination with 220 or 240 available) just not the ladder primary.
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heisthl wrote:I was told by Mercury today it is because of a European import restriction.
Can they actually tell you which import restriction?

Seemingly those of us from Europe haven't heard about this.
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The sales person couldn't tell me but he did say it was also a requirement within the "CE" designation guidelines.
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The sales person couldn't tell me but he did say it was also a requirement within the "CE" designation guidelines.
This shouldn't be problem for the xformer manufacturer. Amp builders just have to properly take care of the unused leads.
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