Lindley Tone-Homing In on #8

[David Root]

I haven't asked about tube type ie brands that Dumble used in the early days. I assume these old amps were mostly 6L6GC equipped. My guess would be RCA blackplates. Does anyone know what brands he used in those days?

Also what types do you think would work best in a 50W old style Dumble?

[Max]

I haven't asked about tube type ie brands that Dumble used in the early days. I assume these old amps were mostly 6L6GC equipped. My guess would be RCA blackplates. Does anyone know what brands he used in those days?

Also what types do you think would work best in a 50W old style Dumble?

As far as I remember (that's indeed some years ago) he used similar stuff in the late seventies as you did find in Fender amps from this period of time.

"work best": I would suggest to just try different brands in every socket and take what you like best: RCA, GE, Sylvania, Mullard, Amperex, Telefunken etc. etc.

Cheers

Max

[talbany]

I can't speak for what Dumble did and have not been inside an ODSR yet so I cannot really add to the historical accuracy aspect of this discussion.. However tapping off the reverb on the clean channel makes the most sense.. given the topology.. I just wonder if he mixes it back before the OD how he keeps the reverbs mix constant between channels given the increased gain structure in the OD.. Or does the OD not have Reverb?..Humm!

Tony

[Max]

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But to my knowledge the "Overdrive Deluxe" was a redone and custom made Fender amp.

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John

I got permission to share these info concerning the "Overdrive Special Deluxe":

A short time before the launch of the first generation ODS and his own #001 Alexander has built two of these amps in the early seventies for a close friend. One of these two “Overdrive Deluxe” is the head you find on Rob’s page (built in '75), the other one is a combo that is owned by Tommy Cougar since many years. Both are similar but don't have identical circuits.

Tommy’s combo has been built first of these two. It was an early Brown Deluxe combo and it was totally rebuilt by Dumble with a new chassis (alu) with a golden panel, a new hot overdrive circuit and bigger fender transformers. It has some special circuit features built in, and also a big fan on the side of the cabinet.

Dumble also made a heavy duty 3 layer leather handle to take the extra weight as its pretty heavy, and it has a very special heavy duty speaker cable made almost about 1/2" thick , and it looks pretty neat inside.

So the "Overdrive Deluxe" was not a model that anybody could order but this was only two amp builds/rebuilds.

Tommy’s combo has a very cool organic sound and responds very well to different types of guitars. It is perfect for Tommy’s slide playing and if used with a "normal" guitar and with a 2x12 cabinet and cranked up it sounds as a pretty modern “rock amp” with plenty of gain and character. Almost "Brown" sounding like a hot Marshall. It is set up to use both EL34/6CA7 and 6L6.

You can hear this "Overdrive Deluxe" combo (fitted with 6L6) on this album recorded '99: http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/junkyardkings .

And last but not least, here now is a unique opportunity to hear and see this piece of Dumble history, Tommy Cougar’s custom made “Overdrive Deluxe Combo”, bad video tape quality, but still here it is:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lxtbGn2hX0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V5rXDkk_1aQ

[Tonegurus]

That's cool, thanks!

Mike

[ER]

Thanks Max

Let's hear it for 6 string "bass" players and cheap guitars plugged into expensive amps! Cool.