HRM Clips

[benoit]

Here's about 7 total minutes of pure embarrassment. Forgive me, if I had anyone available to play this properly I would.

Speaker was the 15 in my Bassman 20 closed back combo. Not ideal but that's the cab I've got.

Guitar was an Aria Pro II CS400 (Thin LP double-cut-ish) with a jazz in the neck and a 59 in the bridge. This tune is all bridge.

Amp is the 100W HRM I built adhering strictly to the ODS-101-HRM schem. Volume at 2:00, gain at 1:00, PAB off, mid and treble boosts on, tone controls all at noon. This is all for the OD clip. The clean clip was volume noon, deep on, tone controls noon, master 10:00, presence noon. PAB is off.

Left channel is an SM57 about 3 inches off the grill, right is a Royer 122 right next to it.

I'm not overwhelmed by the OD sound. Love the cleans for traditional Jazzy stuff though.

Sorry about any balance issues, I had a pretty limited window in which to do these.

[Fischerman]

I thought HRMs were 'at their best' when PAB was ON (edit: and Mid-boost OFF)? I know I much prefer mine with PAB ON (for the OD...not for the Clean).

In any case it still somehow sounds good. Mine doesn't sound that good when setup that way.

And your playing was good!

[Bob-I]

I agree with your assessment of the tones. The cleans are excellent, the ODS only fair. I'll bet it's the speaker which seems to have a spike in the upper mids.

Don't be so hard on your playing, sounds great!

[bluesfendermanblues]

Benoit,

Don't be so self consious about your playin' - I really love the joe pass sound you got on the "All the things"-mp3. That truely a great classic jazz sound. !!

What settings and guitar did you use??

[mat]

To my ears the OD has great potential in it. Its not harsh at all. As Bob-I said I also hear too much upper mids or lack of lower frequencys. Might be the cab/speaker. As soon as You hit the thicker string it sounds very good to me.

Did You use a delay pedal or was it software delay ?

Another thing, what cauge is the strings on Your guitar ?

I can't play at all those jazzy melodic lines that You play on the clean clip. Would be nice to learn tho'. Very nice playing !

Thanks for the clips,

[bajaman]

I modified a Fender Export Bassman 50 head many years ago to Dumble type specs - used the HRM presets after the OD section, but it always sounded thin and lacking when the overdive was engaged - my customer loved the clean tone though
Many years passed and I removed the HRM shit - now he tells me it is the best amplifier he has ever owned.
( no skyline EQ either)
bajaman

[moj067]

Yeah, the OD seems kinda dead sounding. If you make a d-lator for effects it will help the OD channel sustain a little more, like another master and there's some added resonance to the OD sound I can't describe, but it really helps.
Just trying to share what woke mine up
I'm sure everyone will chime in on it w/ another perspective.

[benoit]

I thought HRMs were 'at their best' when PAB was ON (edit: and Mid-boost OFF)? I know I much prefer mine with PAB ON (for the OD...not for the Clean).

Yeah, that's what I hear. For whatever reason, possibly the crappy speaker, I didn't like the OD as much with PAB on, or maybe I just kinda spaced out. I was sort of rushing to get the clips done so maybe I didn't even try it.

I agree with your assessment of the tones. The cleans are excellent, the ODS only fair. I'll bet it's the speaker which seems to have a spike in the upper mids. Don't be so hard on your playing, sounds great!

I wouldn't doubt the speaker's at least part of the issue. I still need to decide whether to go with a 2x12 or a 1x12 and what to pack it with. I've thought about a thiele with an EVM12L, a 1x12 with a Weber Michigan, a 2x12 with Funk's go-to tonker/swamp thang combo, but am having a hard time deciding. Probably a 1x12 of some sort for cost reasons. As for the playing, I've sort of come to accept that I may never be 100% happy with my playing, regardless of how good I get, but I can appreciate some kind words, so thanks!

Don't be so self consious about your playin' - I really love the joe pass sound you got on the "All the things"-mp3. That truely a great classic jazz sound. !! What settings and guitar did you use??

For the jazz tune? The guitar is that same Aria Pro II CS400, this time with the Duncan Jazz that's in the neck. Settings are in that first post, I believe.

To my ears the OD has great potential in it. Its not harsh at all. As Bob-I said I also hear too much upper mids or lack of lower frequencys. Might be the cab/speaker. As soon as You hit the thicker string it sounds very good to me.

Did You use a delay pedal or was it software delay ?

Another thing, what cauge is the strings on Your guitar ?

Mat, I agree that the OD, while not yet great, could potentially get there. The speaker needs to change, for sure, but I also need to get off my butt at some point and start tweaking (still bone-stock ODS100HRM). The delay is software, I think it's a waves supertap 6 with only 2 taps active, one set to about 380 ms, one 760ish. I'm not in love with it but it works. The strings... man I'm not even sure. I would say probably tens, maybe elevens. Def. not 9s or anything real big.


Thanks everyone for the kind words and observations. I'll build 'er a speaker cab and get back to you.

[Bob-I]

I wouldn't doubt the speaker's at least part of the issue. I still need to decide whether to go with a 2x12 or a 1x12 and what to pack it with. I've thought about a thiele with an EVM12L, a 1x12 with a Weber Michigan, a 2x12 with Funk's go-to tonker/swamp thang combo, but am having a hard time deciding. Probably a 1x12 of some sort for cost reasons.

If you go 1x12 I'd recomend the thiele. I have one with an Eni Delta-Pro12A and it's big and fat. Far better than any other 1x12 I've tried.

The Tonker/Swamp Thang is also my goto 2x12. I happened on it by surfing ebay and buying the cheepest Emi's I found.

As for the playing, I've sort of come to accept that I may never be 100% happy with my playing, regardless of how good I get, but I can appreciate some kind words, so thanks!

Same here. I'm as good as I can be.