De Clean Finished - Too clean. how to get more gain?

[10thTx]

You can very easily add a PAB (preamp boost), mid-boost and NFB switch.

All 3 of these will each add some "hair" to the tone. I think this may be an easy resolution for you.

With respect, 10thtx

[Ranalog]

Ok, I tried all suggest you made me.

PAB...I dont like, its a strange sound.

NFB. I tried to put a 100k potenciometer in series with 3k3 resistor, puting the pot at half, I can take some hair sound, I like it.
Also I add a switch and also I like the effect when nfb is off

Midle switch I like also have this option.

Now I am trying this:I win a little more gain i like it.
Any idea to use the other half tube with another stage without losing the tone?

[10thTx]

You have many options here. These are just a few to consider.

Since you have a cathode follower now, use it as the send to an FX and then the other triode as a recovery.

OR ............ use something more typical and have an OD gain stage.

With respect, 10thtx

[10thTx]

OR ........... if you don't want a traditional OD section and want something that still adds "hair", then you could try one of these OD ideas which I have used successfully on several amps.

With respect, 10thtx

[Ranalog]

I dont posted the Fx loop that iam using.

I am using a buffered fx loop with two stage.one for send, and one for
return
I have two options. Use the version that you post with one stage cathode followet between my " gain" and level, and other for the return of the Fx loop.

Or spend two stage in the fx loop. and one on the cathode followet that I posted, but a have one more to spend

In this amp I dont need overdrive, How I can spend the other half of tube?

[splgeo]

you could swap the pots out for higher value ones. less signal to ground = more gain

[Ranalog]

Hi again,

One week later, and some tests, I spend a half tube in a cathode folloer for take some more gain. Now the sound is amasing!

But I spend half tube from the send of the fx loop.
Now I only have one triode for the Fx loop.

I put the fx send in series with the level, and I put the triode for the return but I have lot lees volumen and lose lot of tone.

Anyone know how can I make a good fx loop with only one stage?

Thanks!!!!!!!

[10thTx]

how can I make a good fx loop with only one stage?

I am NOT sure if I am understanding your question correctly??

On this amp (schematic shown), I am essentially using the cathode follower as the FX send ................... then a separate triode for the FX return.

I love the way it sounds! It originally had a more traditional D'Lator type approach with a separate triode for FX send.

With respect, 10thtx

[Ranalog]

Sorry for my english!L
look the schematic
In the first schematic I build two week ago, I used only 2 stage for the preamp, 2 stage for FX loop, and 2 stage for the PI.

I moded the schematic and I used the stage of SEND for win some gain. And I put a passive send inthe cathode of the last stage of preamp.

Now I have volumen problems whe I put effects in the Fx loop

[Ranalog]

I correct some erros in the previous schematic

Can you see any more errors, which makes the sound down when the Fx loop is used?

[glasman]

I would first make the NFB switchable and switch it off This should give some hair back.
Niki

For even more fun, make the NFB variable. Add a pot in the NFB line, then you can adjust the gain of the PA and it will add a LOT of touch to the amp.

[Colossal]

I would first make the NFB switchable and switch it off This should give some hair back.
Niki

For even more fun, make the NFB variable. Add a pot in the NFB line, then you can adjust the gain of the PA and it will add a LOT of touch to the amp.

Yes, this is a cool and useful mod. A while ago, I worked on a Deluxe Reverb that had a pot out back for NFB. With a little more resistance (less feedback) the amp gets more hairy in a very musical way.