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SE EL84 Mini ODS PTP
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SE EL84 Mini ODS PTP
Just finished up a build that I'd been thinking about doing for a month or two. A single EL84 being driven by an ODS type pre, minus tone controls. I really dug Mat's SE EL84 amp, the "Revenge of the miniHRM!!", and drew inspiration from there. I wanted to simplify my design and since I'm using a Bud chassis with what I consider limited space, I wanted it to be simple and not employ tone controls, save for a NF pot. Other than that, nothing but volumes.
I also included a manual toggle switch that removes the second and third stages as well as the final volume control so the amp can get as open of a clean sound as possible. Just fired her up yesterday and after a couple of touchups, I have to say I'm very pleased. I was going for more of a classic ODS (70s) tone and wanted the drive to be more raw, which this most certainly is! I also included a passive loop. Tube rectified with a TAD GZ34 right now. Two TAD 7025s and a JJ EL84 were also used for start up. Hope you guys dig!
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Re: SE EL84 Mini ODS PTP
I want to play it!
How's the hum at idle?
How's the hum at idle?
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Re: SE EL84 Mini ODS PTP
I would love for you to play it! Just a quick couple thousand miles.xtian wrote:I want to play it!
How's the hum at idle?
The hum's very reasonable for what's going on in there when playing in high gain mode. It gets pretty nasty when the volumes before the master get way up there, but that doesn't sound very good anyway IMO. The settings I've come to really dig have pretty low hum.
Re: SE EL84 Mini ODS PTP
Love to hear it!
Didn't think SE benefited from tibe rectifier.
Do you have a hum balance pot?
John
Didn't think SE benefited from tibe rectifier.
Do you have a hum balance pot?
John
Do not limit yourself to what others think is reasonable or possible.
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eniam rognab
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Re: SE EL84 Mini ODS PTP
you stole my idea for a keyed switch!!
what happens if you lose the key?
jumper with a screwdriver?

what happens if you lose the key?
Re: SE EL84 Mini ODS PTP
Well, I used the tube rect to employ the 5v winding on the PT and avoid using another board in there for diodes. I also like tube rects. As they say, smoke em if you got em.Cantplay wrote:Love to hear it!
Didn't think SE benefited from tibe rectifier.
Do you have a hum balance pot?
John
Didn't use a hum balance pot. Excess noise isn't an issue in this amp.
Didn't steal shit!eniam rognab wrote:you stole my idea for a keyed switch!!![]()
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what happens if you lose the key?![]()
jumper with a screwdriver?
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If you lose the key, you simply play Stairway To Heaven and the amp will light.
Here's a pic of the amp re tubed as I was playing earlier...
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Re: SE EL84 Mini ODS PTP
Nice build!
I always raise the heater reference on my SE builds to the cathode voltage of the output tube. That usually helps alot with hum and is very easy to do.
Planning to do any soundclips?
Greetings,
Timo
I always raise the heater reference on my SE builds to the cathode voltage of the output tube. That usually helps alot with hum and is very easy to do.
Planning to do any soundclips?
Greetings,
Timo
Re: SE EL84 Mini ODS PTP
Nice!! 
Re: SE EL84 Mini ODS PTP
Great looking one. Will be great to hear it as well.
Niki
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frankdrebin
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Re: SE EL84 Mini ODS PTP
120 ohms on power tube cathode sounds pretty hot,isn't it?
Re: SE EL84 Mini ODS PTP
Thanks guys. Interesting ideas for the heaters. I did a clip yesterday and had the overall volume at a good level and the hum was negligible. I was fooling around with one of the echo units I just posted in FS, so please forgive the pauses while I noodle with it. I think the likeness of the amp was captured very nicely and accurate to what I hear in person, even though I just used my phone. I need to do a clean and mean recording next. Hope you get through it all.
https://soundcloud.com/snapdragon58/el84se

https://soundcloud.com/snapdragon58/el84se
Yes it is and I'm on track to cooling it down a bit. FWIW, JJs don't seem to mind much.frankdrebin wrote:120 ohms on power tube cathode sounds pretty hot,isn't it?
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eniam rognab
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Re: SE EL84 Mini ODS PTP
nice clip buddy! that delay sounds great!
might have to build myself one, make an anagram of all your initializations
hmm, SE PTP HRM, only one vowel... gonna be tough, i'll be back
might have to build myself one, make an anagram of all your initializations
hmm, SE PTP HRM, only one vowel... gonna be tough, i'll be back
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Sounds very nice. To my ears, it had very Sonny Landreth kind of vibe. Great!
Now let's look at where I can find SE OT transformer
Niki
Now let's look at where I can find SE OT transformer
Niki
Re: SE EL84 Mini ODS PTP
To kill the hum I add an extra filter stage at the front end of the power supply and run the output stage through it. So a 33uf, 100R 33uf use this point as your B+ and then in to the rest of your PSU.
This way the output tx will see little ripple and the amp will be quite. I guess your amp pull's about 65mA so a 2w 100R resistor will handle the power.
Let us know if you try it.
This way the output tx will see little ripple and the amp will be quite. I guess your amp pull's about 65mA so a 2w 100R resistor will handle the power.
Let us know if you try it.
Re: SE EL84 Mini ODS PTP
Nice looking and sounding build. Congrats! I got very good results with a tube reverb unit on the passive loop. I think it will sound eaven better with a dumbleator I'm building right now.
If You want to smoothen the drive maybe a 390p or 470p snubbers from plate to cathode on V2 might do the job.
If You want to smoothen the drive maybe a 390p or 470p snubbers from plate to cathode on V2 might do the job.
mat