What are the settings on your Dumbleator?

[rogb]

Do I need to use the parallel/killdry settings on the TC or just leave it series and rely on the 25K mix?

When running parallel the norm is to set the FX to 100% wet or killdry, otherwise there can be a comb filtering effect.

Thanks I have tried combinations of killdry and parallel in and out, but it just sounds weird! I am going to try once more later to adjust the in/out levels of the processor, but if I can't get it right, I will revert to my original wiring.

[jcsifu]

rogb,
did you use the mesa twist schematic or one of the others? Also do you have any gut shots of what you put in?

[rogb]

rogb,
did you use the mesa twist schematic or one of the others? Also do you have any gut shots of what you put in?

I reverted the wiring. It didn't work out. The Dlator sounded great before, it was just an experiment. I have been down the parallel wiring route before and I think the only way might be using a MiniMix.

I am more interested in getting my new build going at the moment

[jcsifu]

rogb,
did you use the mesa twist schematic or one of the others? Also do you have any gut shots of what you put in?

I reverted the wiring. It didn't work out. The Dlator sounded great before, it was just an experiment. I have been down the parallel wiring route before and I think the only way might be using a MiniMix.

I am more interested in getting my new build going at the moment

OK...just curious what you did so myself and others that are trying a parallel wiring could learn from your experiment.

bluesfendermanblues had posted this back in July this year:

And if you put in a 25k pot in the loop you get parallel functionality as well, and you can put your new rev and delay pedals in the (parallel) loop. Try it. It'll solve your tone issues.

[jcsifu]

Here's a point Gill made regarding Dlators and MV caps in a past thread:



PostPosted: Thu Jun 20, 2013 4:53 pm Post subject: Master Brightness Caps in Non-HRM Amps Reply with quote
Many of you have known me long enough and realize that I've changed my mind about a few things regarding ODS style amps over the last 14 years or so.

Earlier this year, I tried to use my amps without anything in the loop to see how I liked it , since I'm getting tired of having to schlep around too many things for gigs. To accommodate that, I got rid of the Master volume brightness cap, which in my case was 30pF. [ Results of not using the loop sent me down a rabbit hole and I ended up buying a delay pedal and an Xotic BB Preamp to go with my home brew Blue Magic for overdrive. I like all of that and it works, but it is off topic here ] At the end of that experimentation period, I decided I'd rather fine tune my amps for use with the loop again.

I started playing with different cap values in my "124 ish" amp, which is my main gigging amp, and ended up with a 47pF cap which makes the clean channel very, very nice. With the stock D-lator clone in the loop and no master brightness cap in the amp, my amp's clean sound was dull in comparison. I messed with presence settings, bright switches on the D-lator clone, etc., but nothing worked out well in a consistent way. Of course, adding the 47pF cap made the overdrive channel harsh so I dialed back down the HF trim from 1 Meg to 270K to ground or so. I'm very satisfied with this and believe it is the best combination of clean and overdrive tones I've been able to get from this amp.

Next, I plan to tweak the 102 clone (this one's a straight copy), and I can see where a 68pF cap (instead of the 30pF cap I have there now) will bring some nice shimmer to the clean channel with the high plate circuit. I am prepared to dial down the HF as well, if needed.

As for what to do if I were to use the amp without anything in the loop, if turning down the treble control doesn't get rid of the excessive brightness, I guess I will make a little patch cord to plug into the back of the amp and use either a cap to ground or a series resistor to tame the high end.

Cheers,

Gil

[fulltone1989]

Hi all,

New poster, Fuchs ODS 50 mod owner - really dig it! I'm using a Timefactor in the parallel D-lator on the amp, but I am very intrigued by the settings posted above and how to get the "sweet spot" on the amp at a lower volume. However, the parallel loop restricts this option. Is there a to parallel mix in my delay (and not process the dry signal) while still receiving the benefits of a serial loop? I have a Triode switch installed on my amp to lower the power rating, but that's not the same idea..

Thanks for your insights!