Lance Keltner on Longhorn Amps
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Lance Keltner on Longhorn Amps
Heres a clip by Lance Keltner on my 'El Vaquero' amp which is pretty much a low plate skyline circuit with a CF driver on the power tubes. http://soundclick.com/share.cfm?id=11754470
			
			
									
									
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Sounds good!
Lance can certainly coax the best from an amp.
			
			
									
									Lance can certainly coax the best from an amp.
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Re: Lance Keltner on Longhorn Amps
Those are great, great blues sounds. Period.
I don't quite understand the "CF driver on the power tubes" trick.
I understand if you want to protect a commercial design, but can you reaveal a little bit about this??
			
			
									
									I don't quite understand the "CF driver on the power tubes" trick.
I understand if you want to protect a commercial design, but can you reaveal a little bit about this??
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its been a industry STD a LONG time, SVT was doing it when alot of the guys on this forum were in diapers! lol! Look at this schemtic, it`s already been posted tho, old hifi stuff.... thing is you HAVE ta have a xtra secondary that`l handle the current of the (2) tubes w/bias requirements......you COULD try to use the secondary input on a twin power, but mo than likely you`d cook it! ;( Just get a say 1-2 amp tranny with say a 120-0-120 secondary, read up on this site and roll yer own!!bluesfendermanblues wrote:Those are great, great blues sounds. Period.
I don't quite understand the "CF driver on the power tubes" trick.
I understand if you want to protect a commercial design, but can you reaveal a little bit about this??
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Re: Lance Keltner on Longhorn Amps
The cathode follower driver on the power tubes is kind of stolen from the SSS however mine is capacitor coupled rather than DC coupled, it keeps the power tubes from dragging down the phase inverter.
			
			
									
									
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Re: Lance Keltner on Longhorn Amps
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Thanks to both of you for enlightning me.
 
@txbluesboy
The sound produced by your Longhorn amps is exactly what I'm after with Dumble designs. Having build both bluesmaster, #183 and #102, and being mainly a blues player, so far only the #102 really shines with my tele/strat guitars.
Tried the #124 initially, but was probably not experienced or patient enough to make it work. I think I'll revisit this design. Both your amps and Red Plate Amps produce the the tweed like blues sounds, that I prefer and mainly get from DIY 5E3, 5F1 and 5F4.
			
			
									
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Thanks to both of you for enlightning me.
@txbluesboy
The sound produced by your Longhorn amps is exactly what I'm after with Dumble designs. Having build both bluesmaster, #183 and #102, and being mainly a blues player, so far only the #102 really shines with my tele/strat guitars.
Tried the #124 initially, but was probably not experienced or patient enough to make it work. I think I'll revisit this design. Both your amps and Red Plate Amps produce the the tweed like blues sounds, that I prefer and mainly get from DIY 5E3, 5F1 and 5F4.
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Re: Lance Keltner on Longhorn Amps
Bluesfendermanblues-- Are you using the FET circuit in your builds? I know a lot of people leave it out, but single coil Pickups really benefit from it.
			
			
									
									
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Re: Lance Keltner on Longhorn Amps
Sounds GREAT MAN!!!!!! reminds me of Lance`s 70`s bludotone!txbluesboy wrote:Heres a clip by Lance Keltner on my 'El Vaquero' amp which is pretty much a low plate skyline circuit with a CF driver on the power tubes. http://soundclick.com/share.cfm?id=11754470
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Re: Lance Keltner on Longhorn Amps
In my first build, a ceriatone kit (today Bluesmaster), I have the FET installed, but only used it once or twice.txbluesboy wrote:Bluesfendermanblues-- Are you using the FET circuit in your builds? I know a lot of people leave it out, but single coil Pickups really benefit from it.
In my latest builds, #102 and #183, I've left it out. I thought Dumble's idea was that the FET was meant for 70's electric acoustic guitars.....due to 3M input.
However, if you regard it as part of the equation for single coil pu's, I'll reconsider giving it a try. Didn't David Lindley use the FET channel for slide?
How high do you set the FET trimmer volume?
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Re: Lance Keltner on Longhorn Amps
I set the FET trimmer pretty low. I do it by ear so I don't know exactly but it is somewhere about 1/3rd of the way up. It's not just for acoustics, you need to play with it some more.
			
			
									
									
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Sound Great Terry, that amp seems perfect for Slide 
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Re: Lance Keltner on Longhorn Amps
I made a few searches and can see, that I missed a whole lot of discussions about using the FET channel. I have ordered FETS so I can put boards into my amps. Thanks for pointing me in that direction.txbluesboy wrote:I set the FET trimmer pretty low. I do it by ear so I don't know exactly but it is somewhere about 1/3rd of the way up. It's not just for acoustics, you need to play with it some more.
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For the lead tone of this clip the FET input and the OD channel has been used: https://tubeamparchive.com/viewtopic.ph ... 483#136483bluesfendermanblues wrote:I made a few searches and can see, that I missed a whole lot of discussions about using the FET channel.
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Re: Lance Keltner on Longhorn Amps
Thanks, MaxMax wrote:For the lead tone of this clip the FET input and the OD channel has been used: https://tubeamparchive.com/viewtopic.ph ... 483#136483bluesfendermanblues wrote:I made a few searches and can see, that I missed a whole lot of discussions about using the FET channel.
Cheers,
Max
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