Some hints about Dumble now

[Max]

His fenders were mic'd from the back sometimes. Or maybe they were loud enough.

As far as I remember now all his Fender amps had been modified to run with 6550s and EV Speakers.

For a long time he used live only the SSS and the Vibro(s) to drive his Leslie cabinet. That's why you often don't see a mic in front of one of the Fenders but at the outlet of the Leslie.

His own words (again in Guitar Player): "I am using a Vibroverb to run the Leslie."

Cheers

Max

[benoit]

Agreed, the tone is not real dumblish

If "dumblish" means for you = LC/RF OD sounds you are right. But others (like me) may think of a Dumbleland or SSS as being very "dumblish".

Cheers

Max

True, I would be better saying ODSish since that is what I've mostly heard.

[talbany]

My Guess and just spit balling here but most of the time when you leave the country for 1 or 2 events the gear is rented..Could have been Stevie asked Dumble if he knew anyone who has one of his amps over there... He may have needed more muscle for that show.. or maybe Dumble not having a SSS handy or not wanting to send one sent him a rental ODS if he had one.. happend's all the time..Even today in the states guy's complain to me all the time about having to use rental gear and are happy using something that they know won't break down even if it's not exactly what they want they make do..Anyway that's what I think..

The Leslie simulating cabinet he used was the Vibratone it has a Styrofoam baffle that simulates the Leslie effect...You mike it from a port on each side to get the effect..You can hear it on Cold Shot and his brother Jimmy used it doing the back track on things I used to do.. For the longest time I thought it was a real Leslie.. If you go back and listen to Jimmy play that piece he does a killer job at it..Great rhythm player...



Tony VVT

[JD0x0]

The Leslie simulating cabinet he used was the Vibratone it has a Styrofoam baffle that simulates the Leslie effect...You mike it from a port on each side to get the effect..You can hear it on Cold Shot and his brother Jimmy used it doing the back track on things I used to do.. For the longest time I thought it was a real Leslie.. If you go back and listen to Jimmy play that piece he does a killer job at it..Great rhythm player...



Tony VVT

I have a cab like this it sounds amazing with my ODS and a 2x12

[Structo]

I remember years ago back when I got into SRV's music was that he used Marshall amps for his clean tone and the Fenders for his distortion tone.

Maybe because he had them cranked and he was getting that sweet power tube overdrive.

But he also used a TS-808 right?

So I don't know if that was just his standard backline that the venue provided or if that was his own amps.

What period of time did he use the Dumble?

[Funkalicousgroove]

AFAIK Texas flood was recorded on Jackson Brownes Dumbleland 150, a vibroverb, and a TS-10.

[talbany]

Jackson Browne along with Mick Jagger and David Bowie discovered Stevie at the 80-81 Montreaux Jazz fest.. I have that album somewhere...David asked him to do the China Girl session...Jackson invited him to use the studio to record I think free of charge.. Jackson helped get John Hammond in there to help produce the Album.. What a Guy.. Shortly after Stevie appeared on a televised grammy event with George Thurogood this as I understand it was Mick Jaggers doing...he also was behind getting him an appearance on sat night live ( 3 BF Twins) since his wife at the time was hosting.. I think he did the song Change it since he had just finished that album...
His first appearance with his SSS that I know of (The silver face one) was a show on MTV Guitar Greats where they did a whole thing on the Texas guitar players.... Johnny Winter Waylan...etc....Reese had just joined the band and the band sounded Killer...Somewhere in that episode he sits down in a Bar and just has the SSS rolling and does Rude Mood...Sounded Amazing.. a little Stevie History if your into that sort of thing Huh!!

Tony

[M Fowler]

SRV was playing in Germany long before he cut an album so my when my buddies came back from service they told me about this guy and then all of a sudden this SRV album comes out and the rest was history.

He played in Fargo not that long before his death and I am sure he was using Fender Super reverbs. Could be wrong it was a great concert and things happen at concerts.

Mark

[talbany]

Long before anyone heard of Stevie I saw him in a place called the Rats Skellar.. It was basically the cafeteria at George Mason...Had an old Silverface Twin and I think the Vibroverb.. Both amps needed help.. Didn't matter he still sounded great... I remember going up and shaking his hand and never forget the size of his hands and the grip he had..and I am not a small dude..He was ripped on whiskey played loud didn't sing much and did a bunch of covers..This had to be 78-79.. Not good with dates..Later on talking with Lindy Fralin who also shook his hand remarked of his powerful grip..He is greatly missed!!


Tony

[Hotrod Ford]

AFAIK Texas flood was recorded on Jackson Brownes Dumbleland 150, a vibroverb, and a TS-10.

TS 10 was not made until later, it was a TS9 on TXFlood

the TS10 was only there in the sober era.

[talbany]

AFAIK Texas flood was recorded on Jackson Brownes Dumbleland 150, a vibroverb, and a TS-10.

TS 10 was not made until later, it was a TS9 on TXFlood

the TS10 was only there in the sober era.

This is true...TS-10 came out summer 86.. T Flood recorded in 83..TS9 82-85
Found This

Vaughan’s primary effects were an Ibanez Tube Screamer and a Vox wah-wah, which had been given to his brother, Jimmie, by Jimi Hendrix. He started out with a TS-808 Tube Screamer, then switched to a TS-9 in 1982-1988, and a TS-10 Classic in 1988-1990.


T

[topbrent]

Since this has morphed towards a SRV thread, here are some cool soundcheck videos of the silver SSS in action. January 1986
Audio is the monitor mix.

Kind of a fun way to hear the raw sound.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mx8UrvGtsaQ turns the SSS amp on at 0:58, Rude Mood.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U42dzt6V ... re=related Ain't Gonna give up on love

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lBbTnO3y ... re=related Soul to Soul.

[Max]

T Flood recorded in 83

The "Texas Flood" recording session dates have been:

November 22, 23, 24, 1982 (n o t '83).

But it has been released in 1983.

Cheers

Max

[Max]

.. or maybe Dumble not having a SSS handy

As far as I remeber now his first SSS was not yet done at this point. It has been custom made for Stevie and was more or less a Dumbleland for guitar with a reverb and in a SSS cabinet.

Stevie wanted something like Browne's Dumbleland 150W, that he recorded Texas Flood with. But at this time ('83) the Dumbleland Special 150W for guitar had already been replaced by its successor the SSS 150W.

That's why Dumble made him a SSS with a "Dumbleland for guitar" character.

Dumble in the Dan Forte (Guitar Player 1985) interview:

"There are some different things about Stevie's" (SSS) "His is set up more like a bass amp, modified to accomodate the guitar range." (Dumbleland Special for guitar) "It's not the usual lead guitar "Singer" approach."

So if someone likes the SRV "Dumble tones" it is very important to keep in mind that Stevie's SSS sounds are much more similar to what a "Dumbleland Special 150W for Guitar" sounds as to the tone of a "usual" SSS with the "Singer approach".

My own personal experiences with SSSs and Dumblelands is 100% in accord with what Dumble said in this interview:
SRV tone very similar to the tone of a "Dumbleland Special 150W for Guitar" (The "Dumbleland Special 150W" was offered by Alexander in a bass and in a guitar version).

BTW: The Rolling Stones used two of the bass versions while their late 60ies US tour to amplify a "Piano pickup" - one amp to amplify the bass part of this pickup one amp to amplify the upper register part).

SRV got his first "silverface" SSS somewhere between this concert in Germany in '83 and October '84.

In October 1984 he already said to Guitar Player:

"Right now, I use a Dumble 150 watt. He calls it the Steel String Singer; I call it the King Tone Consoul (laughs) - that's s-o-u-l."

Cheers

Max

[Max]

SRV was playing in Germany long before he cut an album

If you talking about this footage here this is not correct:

"Texas Flood" was recorded in November 1982, this concert is '83.

Cheers

Max