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unbalanced heads

Posted: Tue Nov 05, 2013 1:50 am
by Phil_S
So, I've built a few heads and put them in OK looking cabs. As you can imagine all the iron is on one side of the midline. When I pick them up, they are very unbalanced, always loping down on one side. Do you guys do anything about this?

I thought about adding weight on the light half, but I don't really want to add more weight. Besides, I think it would take about 4-5# to get it in balance and that's a big hunk of metal. Anyone use an off center handle?

Re: unbalanced heads

Posted: Tue Nov 05, 2013 2:27 am
by xtian
Yes, I put my handles off center on the Rocket Dog amps I built.

Re: unbalanced heads

Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2013 4:12 am
by Phil_S
Ummm, yeah, functional but looks weird. Almost counterintuitive. It is good to march to your own beat. Thanks for that.

Re: unbalanced heads

Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2013 4:33 am
by M Fowler
I don't put handles on Trainwreck wood cabs and the others that are in tolex cabs I just live with it. One hand on the handle and other hand balancing it.

Make several trips to carry equipment in. :)

Re: unbalanced heads

Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2013 5:04 am
by sepulchre
I put the handles on the ends so it doesn't really matter. But I've considered doing what I've seen before: putting the OT on the opposite end from the PT. Never did though.

Re: unbalanced heads

Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2013 2:16 pm
by Gibsonman63
I did the offset method on my Liverpool clone head. I found the center of gravity and put the handle there. My test head cab has the handle in the center. It is amazing how much lighter it feels when it is balanced under the handle.

You will get used to the wierdness.

Re: unbalanced heads

Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2013 2:31 pm
by NickC
I center the handle, in accordance with this sage advice:
Fernando Lamas & Billy Crystal wrote:It is better to look good than to feel good.


:wink:

Re: unbalanced heads

Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2013 4:40 pm
by xtian
Off-center handle: it's not weird, it's art.

And it's appropriate! What else about your amp has L-R symmetry?

Re: unbalanced heads

Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2013 5:11 pm
by Milkmansound
why not mount another power transformer to the preamp side and not wire it up to anything? :D

Re: unbalanced heads

Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2013 5:23 pm
by NickC
Milkmansound wrote:why not mount another power transformer to the preamp side and not wire it up to anything? :D
Yes!

Here is a less costly version of the same idea:
53+ Pounds Of Soft Lead Block Ingots
http://www.ebay.com/itm/53-Pounds-Of-So ... 1c3872e269

Re: unbalanced heads

Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2013 5:57 pm
by xtian
Wow! I am fully satisfied because the seller posted seven detailed photos of the honorable lead ingots.

Re: unbalanced heads

Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2013 6:01 pm
by NickC
xtian wrote:Wow! I am fully satisfied because the seller posted seven detailed photos of the honorable lead ingots.
You will, of course, want to impress your personal seal* on each ingot installed in each amp as a "value added" bonus. :wink:






* Sold By Weight, Not Volume

Re: unbalanced heads

Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2013 2:13 pm
by Phil_S
Just to sidetrack this...remember the old Western Electric phones that Ma Bell used to rent to you? They had a sticker that said the phone company owned it. They must have weighed in at 5 pounds -- full of metal parts and a chassis, too. Years later, you supplied your own phone and they could be bought cheaply. They didn't weigh nearly as much. I had reason to open one of the cheap phones (do I really need a reason?) and discovered a metal ingot on the bottom to give it some ballast. I guess otherwise it would go flying every time you yanked the cord!

Re: unbalanced heads

Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2013 5:15 pm
by JoeCon
Guys

You just need this layout PT on the Left and OT on the right...

Re: unbalanced heads

Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2013 6:25 pm
by vibratoking
Just to sidetrack this...remember the old Western Electric phones that Ma Bell used to rent to you? They had a sticker that said the phone company owned it. They must have weighed in at 5 pounds -- full of metal parts and a chassis, too. Years later, you supplied your own phone and they could be bought cheaply. They didn't weigh nearly as much. I had reason to open one of the cheap phones (do I really need a reason?) and discovered a metal ingot on the bottom to give it some ballast. I guess otherwise it would go flying every time you yanked the cord!
The old Ma Bell phones had a chunk of pig iron in the handset. It's called a quality weight...seriously. It was a lethal weapon.