Rare Black Celestion Alnicos

[Blackburn]

Anyone have any knowledge of these? An off color done by Celestion for smaller name companies like Marshall and Selmer at the time. I have a chance for a couple and really can't find ANYTHING about em on the web.

David

[Colossal]

I could be horribly mistaken, but weren't some of those alnicos used for a short time in the original 18W Marshall 1974 circuit?

[Blackburn]

No clue my man! These things really are mysterious entities! At this very moment I am learning a bit more from the Marshall book.

[Jerry2013]

I have a old marshall cabinet with Blackbacks. They are quite diferent sounding then the later 80's series Greenbacks..I also have a 80's greenback loaded marshall cabinet. The reissue modern greenbackls in turn sound different then 80's issue greenbacks.
The old Blackbacks are by leaps and bounds better speakers then the 80's greenbacks, which in and of themselves are fantastic, but tighter , more hi-fi and less organic sounding.
The new greenbacks are also very good speaks, they do have some of that old blackback vibe, but are way less organic sounding. New greenbacks sound less like the 80's greenbacks then they do the old Blackbacks- definetley some of the vintage vibe, but a lot less round and dimensional , and brighter more sterile sound.

[Blackburn]

Not the ceramic Blackbacks. I'm talking about the early 1960s AlNiCo models, the T530s, that very few were (allegedly) painted Shiny Black as opposed to the regular Vox Blue, Poly Grey, Oyster and Natural. Quite hard to find even a shred of info on these.

[NickC]

I don't know about the speakers in question. But I would approach it this way: are there any recone kits available, or is there anyone that advertises reconing them? If not, I would question the viability and value of any drivers with so questionable a future.

[Blackburn]

Well, they aren't any different than the Vox Blue T530s, just a different paint job, so I'm sure the recone would be the same. I actually did find evidence of them, but oh so little evidence!

[Reeltarded]

The early PA cabs have tiny AlNiCos. I should write a pamphlet about the PA cabs. I destroyed every one I ever found. lmao

[Bob S]

I might be wrong on this, but ...
I think the T530 predecessors were P4's.
They were black.
Those you can't get reconed to anywhere near original.