TW 18w Rocket
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TW 18w Rocket
Finally finished my youngest son's 18w Rocket using MC 18w Marshall standup PT and 18w Marshall OT.
Nice tone's he should be happy with this, add a stomp box and go.
Wrecked the faceplate so have to order some hard wood.
			
			
						Nice tone's he should be happy with this, add a stomp box and go.
Wrecked the faceplate so have to order some hard wood.
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Re: TW 18w Rocket
Looks real good. You went with a SS rectifier and no choke? I have a Davis 201 PA amplifier I'd like to warp into an 18 watt something. maybe a rocket, L'pool or 20 watt Marshall, for my son.
			
			
									
									
						Re: TW 18w Rocket
Thanks, I didn't want to bother with rectifier tube so went SS rectifier but did use a 1k sag resistor on B+2.
Put extra eyelets on the board for all the other voltage taps rather then shrink wrap and bundle them together.
Put B+3 - B+5 on the tone board for ease. Input jack is isolated from chassis. Has high/low bright switch with center off. Also, has high/low boost switch with center off 1uf & 25uf bypass caps.
Installed PPIMV for bedroom playing or rocking out
			
			
									
									
						Put extra eyelets on the board for all the other voltage taps rather then shrink wrap and bundle them together.
Put B+3 - B+5 on the tone board for ease. Input jack is isolated from chassis. Has high/low bright switch with center off. Also, has high/low boost switch with center off 1uf & 25uf bypass caps.
Installed PPIMV for bedroom playing or rocking out

Re: TW 18w Rocket
I just went through a round of tone tweaks to my 2012 Rocket. It had far too much treble and bass and no mids. Much better after a few tweaks, most notably, bright cap way down to 10p, and Jelle's suggestion for the tone stack: C5 -> 500p, C7 -> 0.0022u. MUCH better now (playing single coils).
How is your tone?
			
			
									
									How is your tone?
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						Re: TW 18w Rocket
Xitan I was going to answer earlier today but the forum was down.  
 
Definitely not a bright amp and I don't think any of my Rockets are bright because I usually have bright switches on them and use the 500pf setting.
			
			
									
									
						 
 Very good tone especially with two way bright switch and cut control. I don't use the mid control on amps much usually at about 5 and forget. My son won't miss it either and will most likely use a distortion pedal anyway.How is your tone?
Definitely not a bright amp and I don't think any of my Rockets are bright because I usually have bright switches on them and use the 500pf setting.
Re: TW 18w Rocket
Well, I don't know what weird about my Rocket, but that 500p bright cap was murder. Much better with it out.
			
			
									
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						Re: TW 18w Rocket
C5 is 50pf not 500pf and C7 is .022uf/600v on a Rocket
100pf across volume pot.
You really altered yours a lot with 10pf bright, C5 500pf and C7 .0022uf wow.
			
			
									
									
						100pf across volume pot.
You really altered yours a lot with 10pf bright, C5 500pf and C7 .0022uf wow.
Re: TW 18w Rocket
The amp used to look pretty good , the bottom one until I cracked and broke the faceplate in three places.
But good ole Richie Hall came through and had some sapale left over and sending some to me, what a guy, thanks Richie.
Top one is my oldest son's 18w Rocket and bottom is youngest son's 18w Rocket.
			
			
						But good ole Richie Hall came through and had some sapale left over and sending some to me, what a guy, thanks Richie.
Top one is my oldest son's 18w Rocket and bottom is youngest son's 18w Rocket.
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						Re: TW 18w Rocket
Nice, Mark! The build, the boxes, etc. I see you're still using the famous Fowler 'blue stuff'.  
			
			
									
									
						
Re: TW 18w Rocket
Mark
Love the bypass cap thru hole in the chassis. The Rocket I built from your earlier build still sounds great and I went with the SS recto too...
And you were right, the 2 x EL84 is pretty damn LOUD!!
			
			
									
									Love the bypass cap thru hole in the chassis. The Rocket I built from your earlier build still sounds great and I went with the SS recto too...
And you were right, the 2 x EL84 is pretty damn LOUD!!
In theory, theory is the same as practice. In practice it's different.
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I really like the looks of the blue boards   
 
I'm still not sure if I should keep that bypass cap going through the chassis like that but I can always plug the hole and glue the cap down. 
 
18 watts is plenty loud I agree and my son's don't gig so these are for their homes.
			
			
									
									
						 
 I'm still not sure if I should keep that bypass cap going through the chassis like that but I can always plug the hole and glue the cap down.
 
 18 watts is plenty loud I agree and my son's don't gig so these are for their homes.
Re: TW 18w Rocket
Yeah, them blue boards are yer trademark.   
 
Have you tried out 2Tone's mod in the amp? Very easy to wire up a switch with that mod.
			
			
									
									
						 
 Have you tried out 2Tone's mod in the amp? Very easy to wire up a switch with that mod.
Re: TW 18w Rocket
Blackburn
Not familiar with that mod. Could you explain?
Thanx....
			
			
									
									Not familiar with that mod. Could you explain?
Thanx....
In theory, theory is the same as practice. In practice it's different.
						Re: TW 18w Rocket
You simply add a second bypass cap (25uf) to the second stage and add one resistor to create a voltage divider right before the PI. Add a 220k to ground where the stock 220k and PI entrance cap meet and there you have it. Very cool mod for a slightly attenuated output volume and an increase in richness of the overdrive. Cleans aren't as good IMO. Would be great on a switch.  
			
			
									
									
						
Re: TW 18w Rocket
Blackburn
I currently have a switch that is 1u/off/10u for that second stage. All I'd have to do is add the resistor.
In the off position it would float and in the 1 or 10 I'd ground it.
			
			
									
									I currently have a switch that is 1u/off/10u for that second stage. All I'd have to do is add the resistor.
In the off position it would float and in the 1 or 10 I'd ground it.
In theory, theory is the same as practice. In practice it's different.
						



