Z wreckish build fired up

[crafty1]

Hello all,

Just finished my Z Wreckish build. So far it sounds fantastic!

I could not have put this together without the information shared by all of the generous members from TAG.

Here are some pics of the completed chassis.


Rich

[DR.Z]

Holy Shit.

Even used the correct color G-10 board.....

That's not a clone , it's a Xerox copy.

It's only been out less then 3 months.

Rich if you ever move to Cleveland, I'll have a job for you.


DR.Z

[da Geezer]

Holy Shit.

Even used the correct color G-10 board.....

That's not a clone , it's a Xerox copy.

It's only been out less then 3 months.

Rich if you ever move to Cleveland, I'll have a job for you.


DR.Z

WOW! High praises from the Z-man, himself!

He's right, you know.....great work!

Geezer

[M Fowler]

Rich fantastic job on that one, very nicely done.

I build my first wreck as the Rocketeer and the second amp is still in progress but will be more like yours.

Mark

[paisley_tele]

I built the rocket how much tone difference is there between the rocket and zwreck? What's really need to change on the rocket?

[ampmike]

Yea,I second that guestion!!!!Mikey

[redshark]

Holy Shit.

Even used the correct color G-10 board.....

That's not a clone , it's a Xerox copy.

It's only been out less then 3 months.

Rich if you ever move to Cleveland, I'll have a job for you.


DR.Z

Dr. Z I have a question for you... In the Dave Hunter book Ken mentioned that he has never heard an amp with metal film resistors that wasn't harsh.
I know that this amp was a colaboration between you and Ken. Was he ok using metal film resistors on this amp?
Just curious.....

[DR.Z]

[quote="redshark"][quote="DR.Z"]Holy Shit.

Even used the correct color G-10 board.....

That's not a clone , it's a Xerox copy.

It's only been out less then 3 months.

Rich if you ever move to Cleveland, I'll have a job for you.


DR.Z[/quote]

Dr. Z I have a question for you... In the Dave Hunter book Ken mentioned that he has never heard an amp with metal film resistors that wasn't harsh.
I know that this amp was a colaboration between you and Ken. Was he ok using metal film resistors on this amp?
Just curious.....[/quote]


We had our discusions about them, but in a word Yes he was OK with the sound of the MF's.

Z

[billyz]

It is the Metal films with the Ferrous end caps and steel leads that are harsh sounding.

[redshark]

Holy Shit.

Even used the correct color G-10 board.....

That's not a clone , it's a Xerox copy.

It's only been out less then 3 months.

Rich if you ever move to Cleveland, I'll have a job for you.


DR.Z

Dr. Z I have a question for you... In the Dave Hunter book Ken mentioned that he has never heard an amp with metal film resistors that wasn't harsh.
I know that this amp was a colaboration between you and Ken. Was he ok using metal film resistors on this amp?
Just curious.....

We had our discusions about them, but in a word Yes he was OK with the sound of the MF's.

Z

Thanks a lot Dr. very interesting.

[redshark]

It is the Metal films with the Ferrous end caps and steel leads that are harsh sounding.

I think for what I read that ken felt that way about metal film resistors in the preamp stages. We all know he favored carbon films for his own builds. Probably Mike Z can tell us more about Ken's opinions and his own opinions about them. Anyway let's not forget that Ken's ideal was to build amps that each one of them were unique creations and when you have to deal with production like the Dr. does is a diferent story.
I truly believe that out of all the production amps out there Dr. Z's are the best. They are not clones and offer diferent flavors. Attention to detail is good and it just shows in their tone. All my respect to Z and thanks Mike for coming to share knowledge with us.

[sliberty]

Holy Shit.

Even used the correct color G-10 board.....

That's not a clone , it's a Xerox copy.

It's only been out less then 3 months.

Rich if you ever move to Cleveland, I'll have a job for you.


DR.Z

Mike - I have always respected your work, but after reading this post, I have a great respect for you the person as well. Most other builders would have taken a far different attitude (angry, nasty, whatever) about this thread (or simply ignored it). You, sir, are a real Mensch!.

[hairyandy]

Holy Shit.

Even used the correct color G-10 board.....

That's not a clone , it's a Xerox copy.

It's only been out less then 3 months.

Rich if you ever move to Cleveland, I'll have a job for you.


DR.Z

Mike - I have always respected your work, but after reading this post, I have a great respect for you the person as well. Most other builders would have taken a far different attitude (angry, nasty, whatever) about this thread (or simply ignored it). You, sir, are a real Mensch!.

I second that! We here all know that, for the most part, cloning an amp isn't rocket science (pun intended of course!). But I would think that most commercial builders would still shy away from any discussion of it regarding their own products. Hats off to you Mike for supporting the inquisitive.

Oh, and go Ohio too!



Andy

[DR.Z]

Remember guy's Ken and I colaberated on the amp built for Brad Paisley.

Brad was the one that said after he heard the MF loaded unit " Don't change a single thing......". And that is what went into production.

Couple of other points:

I used MF's on my first amp designs and liked there 1% consistancy in the finished amp builds.
Their flame proof safety.
And there quiet high gain operation.

DR.Z

[Cliff Schecht]

There are lots of merits to using MF resistors. I quit using the cheapie Xicon MF through holes in my amps because I don't like how flimsy the leads are and I did find them to be on the bright/harsh side. But anything from the Dale RN series stuff sounds fantastic, I can't really put a "sound" to them other than transparent.